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Big Media Won't Touch Agenda 21
SierraTimes.com ^ | Feb 3, 2005 | Nancy Levant

Posted on 02/03/2005 10:37:05 PM PST by hedgetrimmer

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To: B4Ranch
I didn't know that about Lieberman, thanks. But you must be careful, there are some here who would invoke the Protocols of Zion at the mention of a jewish name.

It is hard to believe that our politicans are so anxious to give away America.

221 posted on 02/04/2005 11:51:06 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

You did what your CiC ORDERED you to do. You were a part of it, Chief. Turn your damn hat around and look forward. It's coming over the horizen and you must be thinking that it's all fog.

No Sir! It is not.


222 posted on 02/04/2005 11:52:14 AM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: pbrown

That is one of my tiniest concerns. Feel persecuted if they want, fine with me.


223 posted on 02/04/2005 11:53:39 AM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: FreeReign

Not me. You are confusing me with our judiciary and our legislature.

I believe in the supremacy of the US Constitution. However there are people in power who put treaty obligations over their duty to protect the Constitution and individual rights.


224 posted on 02/04/2005 11:55:03 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth
The UN is a bunch of incompetent, corrupt buffoons. Your examples of Rwanda, Sudan, and OilforFood are all sterling examples. Agenda 21 is just another utopian UN fanstasy that will collapse under the wieght of the UN's corruption and venality. This thread reads like a transcript from some 1990s militia shortwave radio broadcast.

Isn't it amazing how much credence is given to the U.N. and to this "Agenda 21" plan. The U.N. has never succeeded at anything let alone trying to heard 4.5 billion people into a unified global government.

Freedom and independence are out of the toothpaste tube and there's no way to push it back.

225 posted on 02/04/2005 11:57:21 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: pbrown



Its is not (yet) a fight where we have to know who to shoot and who not to shoot. It is a war of ideas...you do not have to know who has the wrong ideas, you have to spread the right ideas. Most especially in the institutional systems, like the schools.

The death of Karl Marx was not the end of communism. Even the fall of the Soviet Union was not the death of those ideas. It was not important to know WHO all of the Soviet apparatchiks were...the discrediting of the ideas that we need to accomplish.

And if you really need a them...start with your local planning board and your local school. See what ideas they are enforcing and spreading.


226 posted on 02/04/2005 11:58:12 AM PST by blanknoone (GWB: Saying what he means and meaning what he says)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Not me. You are confusing me with our judiciary and our legislature. I believe in the supremacy of the US Constitution. However there are people in power who put treaty obligations over their duty to protect the Constitution and individual rights.

My mistake. I must be confusing you with the guy who said this:


227 posted on 02/04/2005 12:00:31 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: B4Ranch
Because some of us believe this scenario is real. Others feel it is their duty to set us straight. Reading so much info on Agenda 21 and all of it's far reaching tentacles was quiet an eye-opening experience for me.
228 posted on 02/04/2005 12:00:36 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: spunkets

UN Labels on US Parks

U.N. designations such as "World Heritage Site" and "Biosphere Reserve" are being placed on dozens of U.S parks and monuments, including Independence Hall, the Statue of Liberty and Yellowstone National Park. At Mt. Mitchell State Park in North Carolina (pictured here), a sign leading into the park designated it as a U.N. Biosphere Reserve. When citizens protested, the words "United Nations" were taken off the sign and "international" was put in its place, to make it seem less ominous. But if all of this is so innocent, why were the words "United Nations" taken off? Is it not possible for federal and U.N. officials to explain the role of the U.N. in these parks and sites?

Some experts believe that these international designations are part of a process by which the U.N., working with federal agencies, is moving to restrict access to enormous areas of U.S. territory, for the purpose of safeguarding the natural resources, including plants, animals and things, that are the province of "Gaia," the earth spirit.

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Think this is a new program? Been going on for 35 years now.

1972 United Nations Treaty Allows Foreign Control of American Assets

229 posted on 02/04/2005 12:03:14 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: blanknoone
And if you really need a them...start with your local planning board

Thanks, I go to the school board meetings. It never occured to me to attend the planning board meetings.

230 posted on 02/04/2005 12:03:49 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

I've been following this for 30 years and ask why is it that people have so much "ignorant faith" in our g-damned politicians.


231 posted on 02/04/2005 12:06:04 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: B4Ranch
I've only just learned about all the twist and turns of their agenda on America.....LAST NIGHT!!

I've been concerned about L.O.S.T. for a while now. I've tried bringing it up a couple of times on different threads when the UN was brought into the conversation, but I recieved no responses on my post so I let it drop.

232 posted on 02/04/2005 12:11:10 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: X_CDN_EH

get on Google and do the reasearch. Look for the names of the organizations who pushed it, then see if you can tie them in with a conservancy, then look for the NGO with that name.


233 posted on 02/04/2005 12:11:30 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: FreeReign
How many countries in the world have established UN frameworks to implement UN policies?

Does this list include the United States?

What US senator submitted a country report for the United States on our progress to implementing sustainable development?

How far along does the country report for the United States say we are?

Which American congressman has written a bill to implement Agenda 21 in our territorial waters? (hint: its called Oceans 21)

How many members of Congress are members of the UN/USA NGO? Is senator Lugar of the infamous LOST, one of them?
234 posted on 02/04/2005 12:11:51 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: FreeReign

Yes it dissovles our soveiegnty when our congress agrees to sign treaties like this. If you do something that violates one of these treaties, you can be held liable by international organizations. Is that not weakening our sovereignty?


235 posted on 02/04/2005 12:14:20 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Kay Ludlow
Go down to a local city council meeting and ask, "What have you been doing to follow the Agenda 21 Plan in the Cities new growth structure? Act as if they arn't doing enough! The more they tell you, seem unsatisfied. They'll tell you more and more. Then expose the whole thing in one shot and knock them off their stools for re-election.
236 posted on 02/04/2005 12:16:13 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: hedgetrimmer
AGENDA 21 is not a Black Helicopter Birch Society CFR conspiracy theory. "Smart Growth" is being pushed in every suburban town in America.

"Open Space" Planning and the "viewsheds" in new restricted zoning laws are being implemented across the country.

It will never be a pet project on Hannity or O'Reilly because they really aren't smart enough to really grasp what's going on. It would take research, they don't have time. Just like there is no such thing anymore of "investigative" journalism....too cost and time intensive.

Instead, reporters use polls and press releases as a substitute for news now because it's easy.

237 posted on 02/04/2005 12:16:58 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: B4Ranch
Go down to a local city council meeting and ask, "What have you been doing to follow the Agenda 21 Plan in the Cities new growth structure? Act as if they arn't doing enough! The more they tell you, seem unsatisfied. They'll tell you more and more. Then expose the whole thing in one shot and knock them off their stools for re-election.

Smooth move.

238 posted on 02/04/2005 12:21:49 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: metesky
You are correct that this is a winnable fight, but people have to know that there is a fight in order to win it.

This post should get bumped daily until there are 10,000 bumps just so more and more people become aware of it.

BOOKMARKED FOR LATER BUMPING

239 posted on 02/04/2005 12:23:38 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Junior

United States of America




Date of ratification of the Convention:
07 Dec 1973





Properties inscribed on the World Heritage List:
Cultural
Cahokia Mounds State Historic Site (1982)

Chaco Culture National Historical Park (1987)

Independence Hall (1979) = LIBERTY BELL

La Fortaleza and San Juan Historic Site in Puerto Rico (1983)

Mesa Verde (1978)

Monticello and the University of Virginia in Charlottesville (1987)

Pueblo de Taos (1992)

Statue of Liberty (1984)

Natural
Carlsbad Caverns National Park (1995)

Everglades National Park (1979)

Grand Canyon National Park (1979)

Great Smoky Mountains National Park (1983)

Hawaii Volcanoes National Park (1987)

Kluane/Wrangell-St. Elias/Glacier Bay/Tatshenshini-Alsek (1979)

Mammoth Cave National Park (1981)

Olympic National Park (1981)

Redwood National Park (1980)

Waterton Glacier International Peace Park (1995)

Yellowstone (1978)

Yosemite National Park (1984)


240 posted on 02/04/2005 12:26:03 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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