MODERATOR, PLEASE REINSTATE THE ARTICLE I POSTED BY TED RALL. OR AT LEAST READ IT FIRST.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=127&ncid=748&e=2&u=/ucru/20050119/cm_ucru/legalsafeandcommon ^

[HighFlier]

Guess you'll have to take up your disagreement on what should be on FR since JR reposted this thread on his own volition during a particularly intense immigration debate.

And, as I said in my last post, I admire him for it.

[swordfish71]

"He is an arrogant leftist idiot"

Agreed---I could think of more descriptive words, but it would NOT be in the least polite.

:-)

[HighFlier]

You are correct. If I followed this post with "Barf-alert" you'd hear no complaints. LOL

[swordfish71]

Might I suggest you read more of what Ted Rall has said in the past and you will see why many here feel like they do.

[Tijeras_Slim]

I think Rall is complete scum, but if you've worked things out with Jim Rob that's all I need to hear.

[humblegunner]

Thats right! You order those Moderators around!
They need to be brought into line and it's you who must do it.
We have awaited your coming for so long... thank you!

[COEXERJ145]

Is there any particular reason you had to bring up this thread again or were you just bored? It's not like there isn't enough immigration crap that is already posted so there is no reason to post crap by someone like Ted Rall and bring up a month old thread.

The only reason Rall gives a rats rear end about immigration is just like Lou Dobbs, he thinks it is an issue that the left can use to win back the White House and Congress. They don't care about illegal immigration, all they care about is regaining political power for the extreme left. If they have to ally themselves with the extreme right then so be it. They have a willing partner in their endeavor to allied the extremes of both sides in Pat Buchanan. Pat has already allied himself with the extreme left simply because he hates the President and the Republican Party because they ran him off the the kook that he is.

You might as well start cheering for Ward Churchill if you're going to ally yourself with Ted Rall. Both are disgusting pieces of human waste that deserve nothing but contempt.

[humblegunner]

I was banded from FR

I like the orange and yellow bands.
What colors were you banded with?

[bigsigh]

barf alerts, zots, and sarcasm tags are for those below the 3rd grade reading level.

[Cold Heat]

Item one, the States are doing or trying to do.

Item two, would lead you to believe we know who the employers are. We don't. They are just as illegal already in most cases, and the law does not exist to effectively prosecute them.(the problem with the 86 reforms and why it failed) Businesses,like people, have rights. You could not run them through a court system faster than they move or are created.

Item three, anchor babies are not as big a problem as some think. The code has allowed deportations of the illegal and the baby. But yes, the Constitution is a problem with immigration. It is because it bestows them rights. The courts have further interpreted that to mean they all get a hearing.(amendments take years, assuming there are votes to pass. Need a super majority.)

[Dante3]

Illegal immigrants pose an enormous security risk. So does many (no all) of the legal immigrants.

This country already has too many people -- too many traffic jams, too many historical areas and battlefields are destroyed for tacky housing developments and urban sprawl, etc., causing a decline in our quality of life. Sure there is lots of empty land -- but it does not have sufficient water supply.

Yes, there was a time when this country needed immigrants. But no longer. In Somalia, for example, they dragged the bodies of American soldiers through the streets. And what did our government do? It decided to import Somalis to this country. There have been problems with immigrants from other countries also, from the Russian Mafia to El Salvadorian gangs.

[HighFlier]

Of course, I'm almost certain if I delved more into his life, I'd see that about him too.

My point is to be persuasive. I don't know if you agree with me on immigration, but have you ever posted something and seen how many more people view the post than actually post on it?

If there is a left-leaning, open borders type that sees that a liberal like himself is opposed to open borders and that something could be done about it, maybe we can win a convert. Or maybe at least on this issue. Either way, it can be a move in the right direction.

Many of us like Ann Colter and she has some great things to say, but how many liberals read her or how many are converted to Conservatism?

In some cases, it is possible that they need to be draw in slowly. Just a thought.

[John Lenin]

After I saw Rall on Fox I understood why he is what he is. Mental Illness comes to mind.

[Republican Wildcat]

"barf alerts, zots, and sarcasm tags are for those below the 3rd grade reading level."

"I'm so glad we have so many upstanding freepers requesting some wacko liberal be banned while we post others and argue about them. One of the things that's wrong with this site."

[John Lenin]

All you have to do nowadays is get a college degree and you can hide behind some type of academic firewall. Garbage in, garbage out.

[HighFlier]

Every point you make is valid. I didn't say any of this is going to be easy.

I have done work at the state (VA) level and national level. We've had some success with both.

The problem with actions at the state level, which nonetheless are very valuable, is that national laws and courts can nullify so much of the legislation that is passed.

For instance, a state that removes benefits from illegals can have that flipped on its head if something like an amnesty program or guest worker program passes. Now those illegals are no longer illegal so they qualify for the benefits and we're right back where we started or worse.

The businesses may be more vulnerable than you think. The government is always on them about who they hire so enforcing a no-hire-illegal law should not be that difficult. The mechanism to investigate them is already in place, it just hasn't been put to proper use.

[Cold Heat]

JR reposted this thread on his own volition during a particularly intense immigration debate.

Well.....I don't have any disagreements. I was trying to educate you.

As for this thread, it is useless. The link expired and it has no substance. It is here so we can let you know the ropes.

If you don't care to learn, or do not take time to get the feel of the place, you will find your posts yanked again.

Have a nice day!

[swordfish71]

I saw him on MSNBC (FOX was not up for some reason) I have never seen such a twisted individual, it made me sick to hear him.

[bigsigh]

are you calling a meeting, if so what's the agenda?

[Cold Heat]

The government is always on them about who they hire

Legitimate business is all they can touch. Most illegals do not work for businesses that the government knows about.(Called the underground economy)

No #71 number, no way to trace.