Posted on 01/30/2005 7:07:08 PM PST by AncientAirs
Oh dear - you're right.
If Masonry has anything in common with Judaism, then it Must Be Evil.
From this post of yous,it would appear that you don't believe in that tenant of your faith. How then,should we believe that you are 1)a good Catholic 2)believe anything at all that you post about your faith?
In an earlier time,you would have been tortured and killed for posting such stuff;not to mention called an apostate and a heretic.And you,YOU ,have the nerve to impugn others,when you,yourself pick and choose which parts of Catholicism you want to believe and talk about the Pope this way?
FWIW,Askel used to over use the phrase :"OH THE HUMANITY" here,for years on end. It was one of her set pieces,which grew quite tiresome and meant absolutely nothing. Maybe you should have used that,instead of "oh the horror". LOL
Oh the humanity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*giggle*
*That* Madonna? LOL!
No wonder. I thought it sounded weird, but I just scanned it, since it doesn't really matter.
Why don't YOU join Maddona's Kabbalah cult? It sounds like something right up your alley.Jewish mysticism for apostate Catholic women. :-)
Can't explain it, Chuck, but no ... I do not believe his was a natural death.
But it's not because I subscribe to any particular story on the subject. It's only because I learned not so long ago that his tenure only lasted 33 days. Just one of those things, I guess.
None of us will ever know for certain.
I do not agree that Opus Dei is a cult. I think the assertion that Opus Dei is most responsible for the suppression of the old mass in Spain is patently false. Opus Dei is obedient to the pope. When the Church decided to go venacular, it is no surprise that Opus Dei, motivated by unabashed obedience, would enthusiastically support those changes. To call them the Masons of the Catholic Church is ridiculous.
As far as Catholics are concerned,isn't the Pope infallible? Only in certain instances.
The Pope is infallible when speaking "ex cathedra" on matters of dogma and doctrine. This is one reason so many were disappointed when Pius VI broke from the findings of those he'd empaneled to review the issue of contraception and issued Humane Vitae. While the document was clearly in comport for the most part with Catholic teaching and delivered a blow to those wishing to exclude the Creator from marriage and limit His participation as Co-creator of all human life, Pius VI specifically refused to grant it "ex cathedra" status and left it wide open to criticism and outright rejection.
The doctrine of infallibility is actually one of the things which gives me hope in light of the Church's current turmoil particularly. No Pope -- however "popular" and liberal JPII himself may be -- has ever abused his position to arbitrarily revoke, revise or otherwise change essential Catholic doctrine such that a single teaching (on birth control or capital punishment, etc) ends up in contradiction with the whole of Catholic dogma and teaching.
It's actually quite remarkable when you think about it. There are no successive "ages" to Catholicism as one sees -- according to the writer I linked above -- in the history of Masonry.
Why wouldn't you? People die of heart failure in their sleep every day on this planet. Murder is far more rare. To believe it was murder you would have to create a villain and a motive and a method and of course hold the belief that the Vatican has lied about the cause of death. That's a whole lot of conspiratorial theory to hold onto when it is far more reasonable that the man died of heart failure.
You're playing word games yet again.
Oh the humanity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm quoting a friend of mine from Leon who -- not exactly a rabid trad herself -- warned me to have nothing to do with them.
I spent 40 days walking through Spain and attending Mass or adoration every day. I saw NO evidence of a traditional mass and was sickened by the horrific "renovations" of what once were exceptionally beautiful and utterly harmonious sanctuaries. It did not escape my attention that Christ had been moved OUT of most sanctuaries.
When I asked why there was no evidence of a Latin Mass in Spain, my friend informed me that I'd never see a Latin Mass in Spain and I could thank Opus Dei for that.
I'll take a Spaniard's opinion over yours, thanks. Though it remains my own opinion (having read what I can when the thought occurs to me) that Opus Dei are indeed the in-your-face "Masons" within the Church at present.
For Pete's sake ... I'm barred from calling a spade a spade lest someone like you accuse me of feeling "morally superior"?
To the contrary. If I call objective evil "evil," it's likely because I know only too well that evil.
Must I take the thread off-topic by detailing precisely the thought and deeds a part of the patently obvious evil at work at Vatican II?
Do you find our President to be acting "morally superior" when he judges some human lives suitable for research and others to be "potential people"? Do you think he's on his moral high horse when he calls on post-modern Christian soldiers to eradicate the "evil" that is Islam? How about his framing the Axis of Evil?
Insufferably moral superior type? Or is that reserved for Catholics who condemn the clearly anti-Catholic actions of avowed dissenters bent on destroying the Church from within?
=== That's a whole lot of conspiratorial theory to hold onto
Oh please ... the revolution IS a conspiracy.
If they can blow Kennedy's brains across his wife one sunny day in Dallas and get Americans to believe it's all the fault of one lone gunman conveniently shot to death in no time, the death of a Pope within the walls of the Vatican is like taking candy from a baby.
Ahiman Rezon
Daniel Farhey
"Ahiman Rezon" is the title of the 'Book of Constitutions' of the Grand Lodges of England (Laurence Dermott 1756), South Carolina (Albert G. Mackey 1852), and others. The term "Ahiman Rezon" is usually explained as "a help to a brother" in different Masonic sources. Since part of this description clearly sounds to originate from Hebrew, let us try a full interpretation using phonetically and logically related Hebrew words:(The pronunciations are given for English speakers.)
* ah' (ah', guttural h', softer than the velar fricative sound ch), plural ah'im (ah-h'eem) = brother.
* min, mi-, me- (meen, mee-, meh-), prefix = from; by; than; since.
* ratson (rahtsohn), plural retsonoth (rehtsohnoht) = will; wish; desire; choice; will-power; goodwill.
To write Hebrew words with Latin letters, some Central European Jews use the Latin letter "z" to denote the Hebrew letter "ts," tsadiq (tsahdeeq), under the influence of the German language, in which the letter "z" is pronounced "ts." Also, note the mutation of the vowels in Hebrew pluralization. Now, let us try some combinations:
* ah'i mi-ratson (ah-h'ee mee-rahtsohn) = my brother by choice.
* ah'ay mi-ratson (ah-h'igh mee-rahtsohn) = my brothers by choice.
* ah'im mi-ratson (ah-h'eem mee-rahtsohn) = brothers by choice.
Either one of these combinations describes quite in substance the main principle of our craft as a "Fraternity," where good people become "brothers by choice." Furthermore, this interpretation also provides a perfect title for a Masonic 'Book of Constitutions.'
I'll take Google over your friend. Traditional Latin masses are offered in Madrid and Barcelona. Apparently Opus Dei is an ineffectual cult.
Where did I say it was a religion?
Look, I'm trying to be polite and have a little exchange with you but it's rather like playing croquet with the Red Queen and not really my idea of a good time.
Feel free to bombast at will but try and keep your criticisms focused on stuff I've actually said.
The windows serve as another symbol of the progressive search for more light. The hangings in each opening are of purple Italian velvet, edged with gold. Crowning the center of the window is the Double Eagle, the symbol of the Rite.The seats opposite the entrance designate the East. Here is the Sovereign Grand Commander's chair, under a canopy of Italian velvet. The canopy is lined with cream silk, and embroidered with the emblem of the Grand Commander.
Around the walls is a black marble frieze inscribed in bronze letters "FROM THE OUTER DARKNESS OF IGNORANCE THROUGH THE SHADOWS OF OUR EARTH LIFE, WINDS THE BEAUTIFUL PATH OF INITIATION UNTO THE DIVINE LIGHT OF THE HOLY ALTAR."
In the center of the room, as it is in the center of the Scottish Rite, is the altar. Made of Black and gold marble, and resting on a black marble plinth, it dominates the Temple Room with quiet dignity. On the front of the altar, in Hebrew characters, is the inscription, "GOD SAID, 'LET THERE BE LIGHT' AND THERE WAS LIGHT."
Rising above the altar is the vast polygonal dome, symbol of the vault of heaven. The dome soars nearly 100 feet above the Altar, flooding the Temple Room with light. We have said that Light is of importance to the Scottish Rite. The light of learning, of insight, of education is shared among Masons all over the world.
Why only Masons? What's with all the secrecy? Are they afraid folks will be jealous of their moral superiority or what?
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