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why the Democratic Party is in trouble, you need look no further than Sacramento, Calif.
Creators.com ^ | 01/14/05 | Susan Estrich

Posted on 01/17/2005 7:34:45 PM PST by Pikamax

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1 posted on 01/17/2005 7:34:46 PM PST by Pikamax
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Susan Estrogen has been awful quiet since election night, where she went out on a limb and had to eat crow. :)


2 posted on 01/17/2005 7:38:29 PM PST by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservative.)
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A Democrat who wants children taught English was too much too bear for the La Raza Left. I'm no fan of Reed Hastings' being the front man behind the 55% Prop. 39 bonds initiative. At the same time, I have to chortle at the way the Dems stick a knife in the back of one their own. You can't make this one up.


3 posted on 01/17/2005 7:39:19 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Wow, when even Democrats like Estrich are aghast at California Democrat antics, it says something.


4 posted on 01/17/2005 7:42:17 PM PST by Dog Gone
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People don't seem to realize this, but how happy would have allot of you been 12 years ago if someone would have told you that all that was left of the DIMs power in government is opposing appointees.

A party is truly down-and-out when the only hope they have for anything is rallying every last vote they can for a filibuster against an appointee.

I guess the same is showing in CA at the state level.

5 posted on 01/17/2005 7:43:57 PM PST by KoRn
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Even the super-liberal Sac Bee daily has taken to being critical of the democrats.


6 posted on 01/17/2005 7:44:23 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: Dog Gone

The party caucus here is way to the Left of most Californians. 60% of the people of this state voted to ban bilingual education. And the Democrat establishment in Sacramento thinks teaching Hispanic kids English is "racist." Wow - good politics!


7 posted on 01/17/2005 7:44:31 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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I'm disappointed for the 100,000 students who are in bilingual education and get less than two-and-a-half hours in English," Reed said after the vote. "They will have a hard time catching up ..." He's right. And when they do, my guess is they'll vote Republican. You can't blame them.

I have never met a parent(in California)of a child who did not want their child to learn english.

8 posted on 01/17/2005 7:44:33 PM PST by oldbrowser (You lost the election...........get over it)
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Estrich was truely awful on election night (and the one time I had to turn off some news channel to avoid hearing her blather on in the aftermath), but this piece suggests that she may actually be engaging in the sort of introspection the demonRATs have supposedly been engaging in since the election.

Too little, too late: the rest of her party is running down the same path as the idiots in the CA leglislature she decries.


9 posted on 01/17/2005 7:45:23 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know what this was)
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To: KoRn

Hastings was a LIBERAL Democrat. He's no Zell Miller - in fact he's a tax and spend Lefty. The reason he got in trouble was he committed the unforgivable heresy of crossing the bilingual crowd in the Democratic Party. You can't teach kids English, ever.


10 posted on 01/17/2005 7:46:35 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Its like we're seeing a different Susan Estrich. Some days she's on her meds and writes in sane and clear English. I look upon it as a blessing we can't say the same about her party. Then I'd be terrified.


11 posted on 01/17/2005 7:48:26 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Could it be that some Democrats are realizing that the Education lobby doesn't give a hoot about educating children, and is actively working to hold them back?


12 posted on 01/17/2005 7:48:38 PM PST by winner3000
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"Hastings was a LIBERAL Democrat. He's no Zell Miller - in fact he's a tax and spend Lefty. The reason he got in trouble was he committed the unforgivable heresy of crossing the bilingual crowd in the Democratic Party. You can't teach kids English, ever."

If that's the level of the DIM zealotry out there, you guys have your hands full.

13 posted on 01/17/2005 7:50:12 PM PST by KoRn
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The number of schools where bilingual classes are taught has dwindled, but Hastings and the board had taken the position that even in such schools, kids deserved at least two-and-a-half hours in English...

I've got to ask.

If it is a bilingual school and one of the languages being taught is not English, then what, pray tell, is the second language? Russian? Arabic? Martian?

Or was this "bilingual school" actually "unilingual"...?

14 posted on 01/17/2005 7:50:48 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: winner3000

A few. Which is why Hastings got shown the door. Democrats better not come up with ways to improve education in California and make sure kids actually learn.


15 posted on 01/17/2005 7:50:49 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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If only we could figure out a way to throw some gas on this fire.


16 posted on 01/17/2005 7:53:01 PM PST by labette
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Californians don't have much longer to stand up for the things that made California great. It might be too late already.

It's nearly as if Mexico has a shadow state of California. It won't be long before there are polling booths in California for Mexican elections, if there aren't already. The surrender is astounding.

And I'm not one who cares how many hispanics come here legally.

17 posted on 01/17/2005 7:53:25 PM PST by Dog Gone
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Good question. I don't agree with Hastings' politics but between you and me, what was it he did wrong? People in this country, except for a handful of bilingual nuts, want their kids to be taught in English! It speaks volumes about the Democratic Party the one thing missing from it most today is common sense.


18 posted on 01/17/2005 7:53:40 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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I'm in trouble. This is the apocolypse. Dogs and cats, living together. I didn't notice who wrote the article, but just read it. This could have been on Newsmax or WorldNetDaily.

There is a momentous shift going on right now, and I don't know what to make of it. Are Rats waking up? Are they getting the courage to start jettisoning the flakes in their party? Estrich has always been the epitomy of the liberal, California, any idea, so long as it's flakey Democrat. Has she finally realized that even she's marginalized in the new, flakier Rat party? Or, is she repositioning herself as a moderate?

While I find the article interesting, it's more interesting that she wrote it.

19 posted on 01/17/2005 7:54:49 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men are ready to do violence on our behalf)
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They must have some kind of manchurian candidate huh?


20 posted on 01/17/2005 7:55:49 PM PST by vpintheak (Liberal = The antithesis of Freedom and Patriotism)
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