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'S factor' still relevant in election (Conservatives are stupid)
Seattle PI ^ | 1/17/05 | NEAL STARKMAN

Posted on 01/17/2005 10:59:10 AM PST by pissant

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To: pissant
>>>He wrote this piece and proved what a blithering idiot he (effeminate, elitist liberal) really is. <<<

Except for a bunch of squared away guys that I have coffee with every morning at Tully's Coffee House, this jerk is the predominate type of "man" in Seattle.

Posts like yours make me think about moving - its been crossing my mind more amd more lately.

21 posted on 01/17/2005 11:20:09 AM PST by HardStarboard (PASS)
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"Can you argue facts or logic with people who still believe that Saddam Hussein masterminded 9/11? Can you argue facts or logic with people who still believe that Bush has made us safer?"

This is the first time I've heard anyone state that Hussein may have 'masterminded 9/11'.
There has been no attack on US soil since 9/11. It is more difficult to prove a negative, but the lack of events is exactly what security is.
There was a massive effort to transport SOMETHING by truck into Syria just before we invaded. Does it require a great leap in logic to assume Hussein wouldn't want the weapons to be found in Iraq by our military? None of this is rocket science but it is obviously beyond the grasp of this author.


22 posted on 01/17/2005 11:20:40 AM PST by Spok
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...although the S factor applies to people across the political spectrum, it went a long way to explaining the apparent popularity of President Bush in the face of facts that indicated he was neither competent nor virtuous.

I just love reading crap written by effeminate, elitist and condescending a-holes who wouldn't know a "fact" from a "fart".

FMCDH(BITS)

23 posted on 01/17/2005 11:22:41 AM PST by nothingnew (Kerry is gone...perhaps to Lake Woebegone)
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To: pissant

ASV Prov 1:7 The fear of Jehovah is the beginning of knowledge; But the foolish despise wisdom and instruction.

http://www.ccel.org/c/ccel/bcb/bcb.html


24 posted on 01/17/2005 11:22:41 AM PST by isaiah55version11_0
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To: Spok

An author who conveniently is unreachable by email and thus immune to counterattack or rebuttal.

It takes a lot of courage to hide behind a "guest columnist" title, crap on the floor, and then sneak out the back door. /sarcasm


25 posted on 01/17/2005 11:24:16 AM PST by Heavyrunner (Socialize this.)
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To: HardStarboard

I moved back to Tacoma after 12 years in Seattle. But despite the preponderence of libs in Pugetopolis, Washington State is still a great place, and I'm going to work hard to flip it red. Stay and fight!


26 posted on 01/17/2005 11:24:42 AM PST by pissant
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To: Spok

"This is the first time I've heard anyone state that Hussein may have 'masterminded 9/11'"

This is what these "smart people" keep doing. It is simply propaganda. They set up the straw man by lying about what happened (i.e. Saddam masterminded 9/11) and then easily knock the straw man down so they can crow about how right and smart they are.

I was on the receiving end of the, "stupid republicans believe Saddam caused 9/11," myth this weekend. I simply challenged the person making the statement to come up with a prominant republican that believes this. The person could not. The best he could do was give me the old, "everyone knows it" lie. I then explained that he was using the straw man propaganda technique as I explained above. He got pretty mad and refused to talk further. Funny!


27 posted on 01/17/2005 11:31:11 AM PST by Owl558 (Please excuse my poor spelling)
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>>> We have to slide horizontally into another universe and try to figure out a different way to communicate<<

ROFLOL! Shouldn't be hard to do for any worthwhile democrat.


28 posted on 01/17/2005 11:33:35 AM PST by hushpad (Come on baby. . .Don't fear the FReeper. . .)
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To: Owl558

Owl, sounds like you trapped amother rodent in your talons.


29 posted on 01/17/2005 11:36:35 AM PST by pissant
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"... he'd been impressed by Bush's handshake."

I've always liked a good, firm handshake. My Dad taught me how to shake hands like a man, and I've always appreciated that ability in other men. Only women give you the four flat finger touch.

30 posted on 01/17/2005 11:38:28 AM PST by etcetera ("The natural state of man is to be in rebellion against the natural state." - the Diplomad)
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Not to mention the 400 tons of Uranium suitable for enrichment.


31 posted on 01/17/2005 11:43:42 AM PST by IamConservative (To worry is to misuse your imagination.)
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You can tell alot about a guy by how he shakes hands.

Reminds of the bar scene in The Quiet Man where the priest makes Sean Thornton & Red Danaher shake hands. They try to crush each other's fingers. Quite funny.


32 posted on 01/17/2005 11:44:20 AM PST by pissant
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"NASCAR celebrity Darrell Waltrip explained his support for Bush by saying that he -- Waltrip -- wasn't "an issues guy" but that he'd been impressed by Bush's handshake."

An entertainer smart enough not to make political commentary and alienate half of the audience is "stupid."


33 posted on 01/17/2005 11:45:14 AM PST by IamConservative (To worry is to misuse your imagination.)
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Well, he's right about one thing: "The real battle is people who reason versus people who don't. "


34 posted on 01/17/2005 11:52:51 AM PST by pnome
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"Can you argue facts or logic with people who still believe that Bush has made us safer?"
It seems to me that his main criteria for determining "who uses logic" and "who doesn't" is whether or not they agree with his views. He bashes conservatives for not looking at both sides of an issue. Well what about him?!?


35 posted on 01/17/2005 11:55:10 AM PST by Betaille (Harry Potter is a Right-Winger)
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"we need to persevere in teaching young people how to think critically."

really means....."we need to persevere in instilling in young people the need to criticize American institutions."


36 posted on 01/17/2005 11:56:57 AM PST by ripley
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Neal Starkman is a moron. Hating America is no way to go through life.


37 posted on 01/17/2005 11:57:33 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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Let's reduce this to the personal: Shortly before the election, NASCAR celebrity Darrell Waltrip explained his support for Bush by saying that he -- Waltrip -- wasn't "an issues guy" but that he'd been impressed by Bush's handshake.

Wasn't "The personal is political," something the left said?

Never mind. More important point: Not everyone is a political wonk, nor has time to. In situations like that they are going to make judgments based on less issue-based factors -- on personalities, on attitudes, and, yes, on handshakes. And for those people, that is a rational, reasoning mechanism.

In fact, it may be the key one. In every Presidential election I can remember (which is from 1976, on) it has been the candidate who portrayed himself as more optimistic who has been elected.

38 posted on 01/17/2005 12:05:42 PM PST by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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Yes. Neal Starkman is an arrogant , condescending dork but beware George Lakoff. He writes very clearly and understands the issues better than most, then chooses the wrong side. I can't figure out what his primary pathology is.


39 posted on 01/17/2005 12:12:47 PM PST by Shisan (Dyspaerunia is better than no paerunia at all.)
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It was my contention that, although the S factor applies to people across the political spectrum, it went a long way to explaining the apparent popularity of President Bush in the face of facts that indicated he was neither competent nor virtuous.

It explains why people would vote for an admitted baby-killer who wants to raise our taxes and drop our defenses.

40 posted on 01/17/2005 12:20:14 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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