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CAIR Proposes World Islamophobia Report
Islam Online ^ | January 14, 2005 | Islam Online

Posted on 01/15/2005 8:55:12 AM PST by Land_of_Lincoln_John

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To: Torie
Maybe you want to revise and extend your remarks, and adopt my little term: "useful idiots."

Hmmm, I thought the phrase "useful idiots" was coined by Vladimir Lenin describing apologists Soviet flacks, and capitalists ass kissers.

141 posted on 01/15/2005 5:10:24 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: jan in Colorado; Nesher; fastattacksailor
Thanks, Jan.

Very eye opening in places, and I thought my eyes were already OPEN!

142 posted on 01/15/2005 5:11:16 PM PST by Former Dodger ("To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. " Confucius)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
Moslems and Palestinians breed like sub-human vermin

Your comment is at once execrable (when Catholics in the US tended to have large families, were they sub-human vermin?), and inaccurate because it over generalizes. In the majority of the Islamic world, fertility rates are not much above replacement level (Indonesia, Egypt, Turkey, Tunisia, the Islamic dominated former Republics of the former Soviet Union, etc). Palestine is the exception, along with Saudi Arabia, not the rule when it comes to assertion about fertility.

If I were the guy with the button, your post would be deleted, because it is a turd on the carpet.

143 posted on 01/15/2005 5:13:37 PM PST by Torie
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To: Victoria Delsoul

Senator Joe McCarthy I think popularized it.


144 posted on 01/15/2005 5:15:34 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie

Nice to meet you, Senator. LOL


145 posted on 01/15/2005 5:16:39 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: CHARLITE
I am beginning to think this war (and war it is) may not be fought within the law...what makes me think that is that Islam does not fight with dignity or honor...Islam is vile and demonic...

The enemy cheats and we need to learn how to win in such a fight without losing our honor and without losing the war.

146 posted on 01/15/2005 5:19:14 PM PST by weenie (Islam is as "...dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog." -- Churchill)
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To: Torie
Why do you continually come back with a derisive comment?

If you continue on your present tack with me I shall bow out of this little tete-a-tete. Perhaps should converse with someone more to your liking. With your condescending and patronizing attitude, I wish you luck.

You have yet to make one coherent statement thus far, aside from snide quips.

147 posted on 01/15/2005 5:20:21 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown
Perhaps should converse with someone more to your liking

Excellent suggestion. See you in church.

148 posted on 01/15/2005 5:21:42 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie

But....But, your a semi athiest. God bless you anyhow. Adieu.


149 posted on 01/15/2005 5:27:44 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

bttt


150 posted on 01/15/2005 5:28:47 PM PST by Happy2BMe ("Islam fears democracy worse than anything- If the imams can't control it - they will kill it.)
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To: CHARLITE; Tench_Coxe; FormerACLUmember; Land_of_Lincoln_John; WarPaint; jan in Colorado; ...
#132 - "For one version of the rumor is – as discussed in Mad in Meccais that there already is a W-80 nuclear warhead undetectably buried in Mecca that can be triggered by a satellite signal.

This is why Osama is going after the Saudi Royal Family rather than going after America. It’s also why he is going desperately crazy. GW cleaned his clock in Afghanistan, the Royals are doing the same in Saudi, so now he is embarked on persuading Sunni Arabs in Iraq to immolate themselves on his behalf."

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The above is an outright lie.

Here is the truth . .

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Killing the Americans and their allies--civilians and military--is an individual duty for every Muslim.

* * * *

Text of Fatwah Urging Jihad Against Americans

Published in Al-Quds al-'Arabi on Febuary 23, 1998

Statement signed by Sheikh Usamah Bin-Muhammad Bin-Ladin; Ayman al-Zawahiri, leader of the Jihad Group in Egypt; Abu- Yasir Rifa'i Ahmad Taha, a leader of the Islamic Group; Sheikh Mir Hamzah, secretary of the Jamiat-ul-Ulema-e-Pakistan; and Fazlul Rahman, leader of the Jihad Movement in Bangladesh

Praise be to God, who revealed the Book, controls the clouds, defeats factionalism, and says in His Book "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)"; and peace be upon our Prophet, Muhammad Bin-'Abdallah, who said "I have been sent with the sword between my hands to ensure that no one but God is worshipped, God who put my livelihood under the shadow of my spear and who inflicts humiliation and scorn on those who disobey my orders." The Arabian Peninsula has never--since God made it flat, created its desert, and encircled it with seas--been stormed by any forces like the crusader armies now spreading in it like locusts, consuming its riches and destroying its plantations. All this is happening at a time when nations are attacking Muslims like people fighting over a plate of food. In the light of the grave situation and the lack of support, we and you are obliged to discuss current events, and we should all agree on how to settle the matter.

No one argues today about three facts that are known to everyone; we will list them, in order to remind everyone:

First, for over seven years the United States has been occupying the lands of Islam in the holiest of places, the Arabian Peninsula, plundering its riches, dictating to its rulers, humiliating its people, terrorizing its neighbors, and turning its bases in the Peninsula into a spearhead through which to fight the neighboring Muslim peoples.

If some people have formerly debated the fact of the occupation, all the people of the Peninsula have now acknowledged it.

The best proof of this is the Americans' continuing aggression against the Iraqi people using the Peninsula as a staging post, even though all its rulers are against their territories being used to that end, still they are helpless. Second, despite the great devastation inflicted on the Iraqi people by the crusader-Zionist alliance, and despite the huge number of those killed, in excess of 1 million... despite all this, the Americans are once against trying to repeat the horrific massacres, as though they are not content with the protracted blockade imposed after the ferocious war or the fragmentation and devastation.

So now they come to annihilate what is left of this people and to humiliate their Muslim neighbors.

Third, if the Americans' aims behind these wars are religious and economic, the aim is also to serve the Jews' petty state and divert attention from its occupation of Jerusalem and murder of Muslims there.

The best proof of this is their eagerness to destroy Iraq, the strongest neighboring Arab state, and their endeavor to fragment all the states of the region such as Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Sudan into paper statelets and through their disunion and weakness to guarantee Israel's survival and the continuation of the brutal crusade occupation of the Peninsula.

All these crimes and sins committed by the Americans are a clear declaration of war on God, his messenger, and Muslims. And ulema have throughout Islamic history unanimously agreed that the jihad is an individual duty if the enemy destroys the Muslim countries. This was revealed by Imam Bin-Qadamah in "Al- Mughni," Imam al-Kisa'i in "Al- Bada'i," al-Qurtubi in his interpretation, and the shaykh of al-Islam in his books, where he said "As for the militant struggle, it is aimed at defending sanctity and religion, and it is a duty as agreed. Nothing is more sacred than belief except repulsing an enemy who is attacking religion and life."

On that basis, and in compliance with God's order, we issue the following fatwa to all Muslims

The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies--civilians and military--is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty God, "and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together," and "fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God."

This is in addition to the words of Almighty God "And why should ye not fight in the cause of God and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated and oppressed--women and children, whose cry is 'Our Lord, rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will help!'"

We -- with God's help -- call on every Muslim who believes in God and wishes to be rewarded to comply with God's order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it. We also call on Muslim ulema, leaders, youths, and soldiers to launch the raid on Satan's U.S. troops and the devil's supporters allying with them, and to displace those who are behind them so that they may learn a lesson.

Almighty God said "O ye who believe, give your response to God and His Apostle, when He calleth you to that which will give you life. And know that God cometh between a man and his heart, and that it is He to whom ye shall all be gathered."

Almighty God also says "O ye who believe, what is the matter with you, that when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of God, ye cling so heavily to the earth! Do ye prefer the life of this world to the hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least. For God hath power over all things."

Almighty God also says "So lose no heart, nor fall into despair. For ye must gain mastery if ye are true in faith."

151 posted on 01/15/2005 5:32:12 PM PST by Happy2BMe ("Islam fears democracy worse than anything- If the imams can't control it - they will kill it.)
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To: spodefly; petercooper



Well done. Pictures speak volumes. As does the silence of all those muslims who say nothing against the terrorists.


152 posted on 01/15/2005 5:54:48 PM PST by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America.)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
"Fox will run CAIR PSAs during '24'"


153 posted on 01/15/2005 6:25:20 PM PST by montag813
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
I think this is a geat idea!

They should do this right after they do the same thing for the KKK. /it's isn't a religion sarcasm off...

154 posted on 01/15/2005 6:33:05 PM PST by isthisnickcool (What do they do in the mosque on days when the guys in the front row have gas?)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

155 posted on 01/15/2005 6:35:03 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: ArmyTeach; MeekOneGOP; Happy2BMe; PhilDragoo; potlatch; ntnychik; Grampa Dave; Interesting Times; ..


I like your idea about using grisly photos in a handy postable archive

Start with Muslim terrorist Sirhan Sirhan shooting and assassinating Bobby Kennedy on live TV

I believe Islamics also attacked and butchered Jews early in the 1900s - I cannot give the details of this

Add the Lebanon Marine barracks in the 1980s

Use linked actual audios on FR threads and webpages

http://pro.lookingat.us/NYC.wav

http://pro.lookingat.us/GWZero2.wav

http://pro.lookingat.us/GWNotYield.wav

Might as well use Hillary too:

http://pro.lookingat.us/HillaryTerrorists.wav

FDR ON PRE-EMPTIVE ACTION:

http://pro.lookingat.us/FDR1941.wav

One of my webpages using Javascript mouseovers and linked audios - Click the GW mouseover photo (a few images down from the top) at Ground Zero September 14th, 2001:

http://00access.tripod.com/CountryRoads2.html

Some FReepers have great dated and detailed lists that they post here on FR threads of Islamic terrorist attacks

Photos and audios make people remember and feel the things the left and the media and CAIR/HAMAS want Americans and our allies to forget.

Two mini-pages I made up:

A MARINE IN IRAQ WITH GRASS FROM SEEDS HIS WIFE SENT FROM THE USA

http://00access.tripod.com/GreenGrass.html

TRIBUTE TO A US MARINE KILLED THANKSGIVING DAY:

http://00access.tripod.com/GreenGrass2.html

Keep the actual horror and evidence right before the world on FR posts and webpages

Photos of people jumping from the WTC on 911 :

http://pro.lookingat.us/NYC.wav

with linked short actual audio clips on FR thread posts and in webpages linked on FR thread posts

Photos and real audios beat just text "lists" alone

I like your concept -

Keep the horror and truth in front of all Americans and our allies and the world - the lefties, the media, CAIR/HAMAS wants all of this forgotten and history rewritten with Muslim sub-human terrorists as "victims", "freedom fighters", "martyrs", "holy warriors", "insurgants", and other BS.......


-dv-


156 posted on 01/15/2005 7:22:27 PM PST by devolve (http://pro.lookingat.us/HoundDog.html http://pro.lookingat.us/TeddyBear.html)
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To: devolve
Islamics also attacked and butchered Jews early in the 1900s - I cannot give the details of this

1929 Hebron Massacre

157 posted on 01/15/2005 7:28:03 PM PST by Alouette (Learned Bubbie of Zion)
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To: Former Dodger
Former Dodger, I knew you would enjoy this thread.

The hypocrisy by CAIR is quite amusing, isn't it?

Any other group can be portrayed as evil, just not the one that hits closest to home...a sleeper cell Muslim family.

That is the concern here. When you are no longer allowed to criticize, and criticism is labeled a hate-crime, how are we then to expose the evil?

>>>>>Very eye opening in places, and I thought my eyes were already OPEN!<<<<<

I had the same experience myself.
158 posted on 01/15/2005 8:37:32 PM PST by jan in Colorado (The Truth will set you free.)
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To: jan in Colorado; Howlin; Timesink; Utah Girl; hosepipe; backhoe; FITZ; Happy2BMe; ...
That is the concern here. When you are no longer allowed to criticize, and criticism is labeled a hate-crime, how are we then to expose the evil?

REVOLT

159 posted on 01/15/2005 9:12:38 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: Happy2BMe

Thanks for the ping!


160 posted on 01/15/2005 10:05:37 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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