Posted on 01/01/2005 7:13:21 AM PST by aculeus
It's all about protecting their income. Nothing more.
Regular or decaffinated, and would that be with cream and sugar?
Needless to say; these bozos will "resign" the same day that disenfranchised liberals book their one-way airline flights out of the United States. Don't hold your breath...these crybabies know where their bread is buttered.
Good for you. Some short-sighted folks on this thread think like this:
One bad chiroprator = All bad chiropractors
Why not apply this logic to all facets of life?
One bad steak = All bad steaks
One bad car = All bad cars
Some with bad chiropractic experiences are the victims of charlatanism. Others refuse to take ownership of their own health care. If you go to a chiropractor and tell him that you don't believe that he can fix your high cholesterol and that you'd like him to fix the crick in your neck, thank you very much, most are willing to comply.
Chiroprators specialize in fixing your frame. Nothing more. Sheesh.
I don't know much about chiropractice, but my gut feeling is to kind of agree with the profs on this. However, my gut feeling also tells me that chiropractice(y?) is lots less harmful than the socialist and PC venom that most universities teach today.
The little satirical map could show a school of socialism, only it would hardly be satire.
"And of course we all know that these things would NEVER happen with regular M.D.s"
Well, with MD's you might get a quack, with a chiropractor, you definitely will..... Chiropractors are like calling Ms. Cleo.....and requires an a priori belief in the person you are seeing - and people will swear by them - therefore it's easy to convince them they are cured.......but only until their next "adjustment".
The worst thing, I suppose, would be a cultural Marxist professor of sociology with no medical training presuming to perform procedures on one's spine. Double whammy.
"The school would also draw lucrative federal grants in alternative medicine."
For those who fight the waste of taxpayers money, here is a large stationary target. The government has a "Center for the Study" of this crap, a complete fraud perpetrated by, anong others, tinfoil-hatter Tom Harkin of the Senate.
Couldn't agree more.
I have to tell you that chiropractic treatment DID help my daughter afflicted with asthma, when it became apparent that her ribs were not in alignment with her spinal column. When the chiropractor popped them back into place, my daughter's breathing capacity went up about 15%.
Chiropractic also helps me with my muscle/skeletal tension headaches. I know for a FACT that when a particular disc is out of alignment in my spine I get searing headaches. As soon as it's popped back into place, the headache disappears. I'm a believer.
I agree. The D.O.'s are real doctors who can identify and treat diseases using the whole armamentarium of modern medicine.
They have all had some exposure to chiropractic-style manipulation, and some of them continue to practice it, with a much sounder perspective and scope of practice than the chiropractors.
The "hard" chiropractors who believe you can cure everything from asthma to AIDS with chiropractic are only one step above homeopaths and crystal therapists in the hierarchy of fraudulent quackery.
As long as manipulation is confined to areas where it has demonstrated scientific proof of efficacy (i.e. musculoskeletal pain), it is fine and helpful. I dare say the time may come when allopathic (M.D.) students learn some of these techniques for treating chronic lower back pain.
-ccm
Our family Doctor is an O.D. as opposed to M.D. and he does manipulations the same as a chiropractor. I have never needed it done, but my wife has it done occasionally for neck pain. Years ago, a surgeon told her she had bone spurs in her vertebra and would need to have her neck fused and she would just have to live with the pain until then.
The OD looked at the x-rays and said nonsense. He put her on the table and manipulated her neck and the pain was gone immediately. It lasted for a few years until she needed manipulated again.
It works.
I have read many of the comments here, and I am willing to bet that the most vociferous critics of Chiropractors fall into one of three categories:
a) Never been treated by a Chiropractor
b) Been treated by a disreputable/untrained Chiropractor
c) Are a bigoted medical professional
d) Have no idea what a Chriopractor should treat/is capable of treating
I have worked in Radiology for nearly 20 years, seen all aspects of it in various hospitals. I had nearly intractable back pain (due to a football injury in high school) that dogged me for my entire adult life.
I had constant pain, and occasional flare-ups that left me bedridden for two or three days, and at limited mobility for several weeks after. I had CT scans. I had Xrays. I had MRI exams. I had phyical therapy. I had massage treatment. NOTHING helped. The best the medical community could offer (short of surgery) had proven to be no help at all. And they would not operate unless some kind of dysfunction could be identified by a diagnostic test, which was fine by me. I didn't want someone just cutting me up.
When I got married, my new wife, after watching the second or third disabling attack, suggested I try a chiropracter (She is an RN who spent her entire career in critical care nursing)
My first reaction was that of most posters on this thread. But I went to a chiropractor out of desperation, and my life has changed dramatically since then.
I was treated by a chiropractor for several years where I went on a nearly weekly basis, and when my back was problematic, I had two go in sometimes three times a week.
I learned a lot about what a properly trained and certified chiropractor can do, and as a radiologic professional, I viewed it all with a critical eye. To be honest, the basic presumption of alignment makes sense to me. I do not know why some other aspects of the practice work as well as it does, but the bottom line is:
If a qualified, trained chiropractor is treating an APPROPRIATE condition in tandem with conventional medical treatment to rule out more serious conditions that may exclude chriopractic as an appropriate treatment, the Chriopractic can help patients (like me) for whom conventional medicine has failed miserably.
Additionally, I may have been fortunate to use these services in Massachusetts, which is much stricter in its oversight than many other states. I bitch about living here occassionally, but they do some things right every once in a while.
If you think it is great fun to poke at and ridicule a profession that has helped many people (in my case, dramatically) that have been abandoned by the conventional medical community (and that is basically what we have done to these people) then you should put yourself in their place.
Sure, it sounds nice and blithe, and provokes a laugh from equally ignorant or unafflicted people, but good chiropractic care is no laughing matter if you have been left behind by conventional medicine.
And one more thing: Blue Cross Blue Shield of Massachusetts pays for Chiropractic care, in most cases. Do you think for one second they would part with even the smallest bit of brass if they were not shown that Chiropractic produces results in many patients? We may not know EXACTLY why those results are produced, but empirically, it works.
Hate to burst your bubble...I was in serious pain from a pinched nerve...painful to the point where I was having trouble using a computer keyboard. A few visits to the chiropractor ELIMINATED the pain. This was several years ago, and I was NEVER pursued for additional "adjustments" once the situation was resolved. End of story. Are some crackpots? No doubt, but you'll find charlatans, crackpots, and outright thieves in EVERY field.
Also, read post #74.
Hmm, sounds fishy. Do you get the "happy ending" as well? I think I've seen this kind of massage parlor in a double-wide on the other side of the railroad tracks...
-ccm
I'm pretty surprised by the blanket condemnations here. I have nothing but good things to say about the two chiropractors I have visited. Both treated the problem I went in for (successfully) after medical doctors had 1) sent me off for pain killers and 2) suggested I knock off playing racquetball. And in both cases I had only a couple of appointments.
I know some of them are interested in nothing but signing you up for a lifetime of appointments and figuring out how to charge your insurance company...sort of like medical doctors :)
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