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N.C. homeless shelter evicts pregnant woman, three sons (Christmas spirit)
News Record.com ^ | 12-23-04

Posted on 12/24/2004 6:10:16 PM PST by jb6

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To: osceola
From your FR profile:   Nothing to see here move on
41 posted on 12/24/2004 7:15:48 PM PST by Buddy B
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To: osceola

Peace on earth goodwill towards man. God bless you all this Christmas eve and thanks for the lively debate. I love it as long as we can all agree to disagree and still be friends. I think that is what this board is for. Gotta go. Later


42 posted on 12/24/2004 7:16:29 PM PST by osceola
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To: Personal Responsibility

Yes... She was there for months, has been trouble before, and was thrown out. I've worked with the people who do this kind of work and I'd trust their judgment over a story designed to make us feel sorry for this woman.

I feel sorry for her too. She'll get another chance, and another, I hope. She's young, she's got a tough row to hoe, who knows, maybe this will put her back in touch with her family.

On the other hand, think of the Christmas miracle this is for someone else who can now get in to this shelter for Christmas. Someone else who now has this chance.


43 posted on 12/24/2004 7:18:40 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: osceola
Remember that beggars in Christ's time were authorized by the community leaders to be beggars. You didn't just grab a tin cup and go beg because you felt like it even then. Also review Pauls instructions regarding helping widows in the church. In an age where a woman without a man was like a fish out of water, couldn't own property, inherit anything etc. he instructed them to engage in means testing. Young women were pressured to marry, not helped and enabled to remain spouseless. Women with relatives were pressured to use their relatives as a resource. In the end it was old, poor, widow women without another source that got any help.

Permit us the same Godly wisdom. Thank you.

44 posted on 12/24/2004 7:32:06 PM PST by Lester Moore (Islam is begging to be destroyed by a Christian Crusade! Forthcoming!)
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To: freekitty

The proper question is, "Where are the fathers?" As in plural.


45 posted on 12/24/2004 7:50:45 PM PST by Goldwater4ever (Voted early, voted often... for Bush)
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To: Personal Responsibility
If she was there for months beforehand and has had trouble more than once couldn't they have waited two days before tossing her out? I am all for tough love and following the rules but you do have to have some compassion, imo

I agree... they could have shown compassion for the children and let them have a Christmas.

46 posted on 12/24/2004 8:06:25 PM PST by SouthernFreebird
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To: SouthernFreebird

To many people get caught up in harsh love and miss out on the love part.


47 posted on 12/24/2004 8:08:32 PM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: osceola

I hope you realize that in this verse Jesus is speaking about a Christian "brother" and not just another human being whois not a believer.


48 posted on 12/24/2004 8:08:56 PM PST by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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To: freekitty
Where is the father?

Or fathers.

49 posted on 12/24/2004 8:19:15 PM PST by FreePaul
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To: hinckley buzzard

I'm split on this issue.

On the one hand, she was thrown out before Christmas, with her children punished for her breaking the rules...

On the other, She must have known the rules in the first place, and should have obeyed them for her children...

I guess this place had a lot of "Uncles, Brothers, and male cousins" visiting in the past and is tring to cut down on the "pregnant young woman in the shelter" sterotype.


50 posted on 12/24/2004 8:57:50 PM PST by Atomicfever
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To: osceola

as posted by another upthread, there is an aunt and uncle who could take them in. Bush's Faith Based Initiative is meant to help local communities take care of their own. If communities and churches and especially struggling people's extended families accomplished this there would be little call for government involvement. Of course many of those who are struggling are there because they trampled boundaries with their kin and burned bridges....even so, I have every anticipation that this woman and her kids DO have a place to stay--and I hope she wakes up and smells the coffee about what's been bassackwards in her courtship(s)...for the sake of her kids.


51 posted on 12/24/2004 8:59:03 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (REMEMBER THE ALGOREAMO--relentlessly hammer on the TRUTH, like the Dems demand recounts)
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To: osceola
GIMME a break!!! Can't people here even be nice on Christmas. This was absolutely absurd. What ever happened to peace, love, and Christian charity? What would Jesus Do?

Jesus would probably say "Obey the rules."

52 posted on 12/24/2004 9:20:52 PM PST by usadave
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Why doesn't the author state the obvious. Where is the father?

Could be he is dead. Maybe he was a soldier in Afghanistan or Iraq. Maybe he died from something else, maybe he was just a rotten sob and ran off. We really don't have enough info to start jumping to conclusions. As for being poor and owing a car it is simple. You bought the car before you became poor. As far as relatives go, maybe her Uncle won't let her stay with him because he is just as heartless as the manager of the shelter. Her aunt was also in the room with her, what was the big deal? I also have to disagree with his inane remark that Jesus would have kicked her out too. What a jerk, and the rest of you who are siding with this guy are jerks too. Just my opinion of course.

53 posted on 12/24/2004 9:32:07 PM PST by calex59
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To: jb6

I'm a bit torn here. On one hand, a visit from the childrens' aunt and uncle would appear quite innocuous. Yes, he's a man, but his wife was with him and you'd think that with some common sense it would be recognized that this was not the mother attempting to smuggle a boyfriend in as a "cousin" or "uncle."

On the other hand, she knew the rules and I'm sure there was a common room of some sort that they could have used to have their visit.

Only in America do most of our poor drive cars, have cable TV, and talk on cell phones. I read somewhere that of those considered to be below the poverty line in the US, a surprisingly large number of our "poor" actually own their own home! Go to Africa or parts of Asia and we would see genuine poverty!


54 posted on 12/24/2004 10:28:36 PM PST by Rubber_Duckie_27
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To: Atomicfever

Three small children...how could anyone throw them out.
At least she is keeping her children, she has not put them out for adoption.
I will keep her in my prayers. Pray that she gets an opportunity to improve her life. Hopefully someone will read this story and will help her get training for a job.


55 posted on 12/24/2004 10:47:50 PM PST by fabriclady
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To: calex59
Could be he is dead. Maybe he was a soldier in Afghanistan or Iraq. Maybe he died from something else, maybe he was just a rotten sob and ran off.

Obvious answer: If this were the case, the author would have included it in the story, as the sole purpose of the article was to elicit your sympathy. It worked.

the rest of you who are siding with this guy are jerks too

Mighty presumptuous of you, O Newbie. Merry Christmas, and may God bless you and your family.

56 posted on 12/24/2004 11:22:31 PM PST by NautiNurse (Silent Night, Holy Night, all is calm, all is bright...Jesus, Lord, at thy birth)
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To: FreePaul

I was hoping to be polite.


57 posted on 12/25/2004 11:03:29 AM PST by freekitty
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To: jb6

Je$$ie Jack$on says that it's George Bush's fault.


58 posted on 12/25/2004 11:05:29 AM PST by reg45
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To: steplock

"According to the latest economic reports from the E.U., Germany has just surpassed the economy of Arkansas (the poorest state in the USA - usually) Our "poor", if they moved to the EU, would be in the TOP 10% richest in europe!!"

Germany has the 5th largest national economy in the world according to the CIA World Fact Book.

The top 10%? Fiction.


59 posted on 12/25/2004 11:18:47 AM PST by Rebelbase (Who is General Chat?)
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To: jb6

Truly bad karma.


60 posted on 12/25/2004 11:21:13 AM PST by lodwick
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