Posted on 12/18/2004 5:56:30 PM PST by PatrickHenry
Personally, I'm inclined to believe that all random is apparently random.
Me too. Randomness constrained by rules is not entirely random.
When I was in college, our professor told us that Darwinian evoluation was a theory...
When I was in college I was told evolution was a fact. That's always bothered me. I think it is a theory. And coupled with the theory of natural selection they are the best theories to date that explain the physical evidence (the real facts). I've been inclined to regard the fact or theory argument about evolution as nothing more than an argument over the definition of the word. The 'fact' proponents are just collectively calling the physical evidence 'evolution'.
I could make an even better argument that evolutionists aren't true conservatives, since they have the whole hearted support of the MSM (see this article) and liberal academia.
Actually, that would be a pretty ridiculous argument. The MSM also wholeheartedly supports the eating of food and the breathing of air - I guess if you eat or breathe, you must not be a true conservative.
Postings on FR by creationists, websites run by creationsts, books and articles published by creationists continually misstate (lie for those in Rio Linda) what evolutionary theory says. Either creationists are just ignorant of evolution or they are lying. Many continually make these false statements even when their mistakes have been pointed out.
What do you think you mean by this? What is your definition of randomness? Why do you think that randomenss isn't subject to its own rules?
So, in other words, science is a liberal conspiracy.
If interpretation of Scripture flies in the face of the physical evidence, Scripture must be reinterpreted in light of that evidence.
Do you suppose this was the time Lucifer rebelled, and God destroyed the universe, and cleaned it up later? How do you unscramble an egg? Do you think God presented Lucifer with just such a dilemma?
What do you think you mean by this? What is your definition of randomness? Why do you think that randomenss isn't subject to its own rules?
But I do think that randomness can be subject to its own rules. When I said 'Randomness constrained by rules is not entirely random' I am referring to random in the sense that implies "that no matter what the cause of something, its nature is not only unknown but the consequences of its operation are also unknown." (from Wikopedia). This sense would tend to discredit the idea of a "random designer". However, randomness within a framework of rules is still random but doesn't invalidate the idea of a "random designer".
"Do you suppose this was the time Lucifer rebelled, and God destroyed the universe, and cleaned it up later?"
Based upon what we are told regarding Lucifer his rebellion and drawing a third of the 'stars', none of which was written as occurring since the creation of man in the flesh.
"How do you unscramble an egg? Do you think God presented Lucifer with just such a dilemma?"
Lucifer = Satan is the only entity named that has the ultimate death sentence - hell. There are some who left their habitation, not named who will be joining him. That is what this flesh age seems to be about, remove the memory of what took place and allow mankind to pass through this age to sort the wheat from the chaff.
What is your opinion of Genesis 6? Who were the "sons of God?"
Your argument in ridiculous. The friend of our enemy is not much of a friend.
I like these quotes:
"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." ~ Einstein
"I want to know how God created this world, I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details." ~ Einstein
"God does not play dice"~ Einstein's famous epithet on the "uncertainty principle".
Nice try, but evolution - like the global warming scare, is not science, but a fraud perpetrated on us by virtually the same cast of characters.
Just so. I feel exactly the same way when I look at exposed strata as when I look at photo images of the outer limits of the Universe. The earth, and the rest of the Universe, are unimaginably old. God is unimaginably awesome.
I think you would be more intellectually honest to say right out front that you don't really understand the theory of evolution, and don't intend to try, because you are satisfied with your "faith in creation", by which you mean a faith that Genesis is literally true, e.g., the Universe was created in seven days that were 24 hours long, approximately 6000 - 10000 years ago.
Just tell the truth. You don't know enough about evolution to refute it, and you have no motivation to try. Just give you that Old Time Religion, it's good enough for you.
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