Tough Assignment: Teaching Evolution To Fundamentalists

Ft. Wayne Journal Gazette ^ | 03 December 2004 | SHARON BEGLEY

[ovrtaxt]

To elaborate, the use of 'became' in v. 2, plus the word 'darkness' is a double whammy.

Isaiah 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.

The word 'darkness' and 'vain' in the above verse are the same word. Follow the logic, and you have God stating that Gen. 2 is not the first instance of creation.

[BJungNan]

Now they are patting themselves on the back, convinced they have won something, having not heard a word and never realizing how stupid they look.

[BJungNan]

I should have know better than to respond to someone who shows up in a thread with over 1,000 posts and posts something silly to #1. My mistake. I assumed you were serious.

You are such an a$$.

[Cvengr]

you may want to go back and reread the article,...thanks, though it was a good read.

[Cvengr]

Depends,...if you are using a device to be employed several million years from now, you might want to revisit the identification problem with the mathematics.

[Doctor Stochastic]

Non-responsive. The question was: do you want to nuclear safety to be done using the same methods as used for radiometric dating (current practice) or do you have a Creationist non-exponential decay law that you would rather have? Do you feel lucky?

[longshadow]

Now they are patting themselves on the back, convinced they have won something, having not heard a word and never realizing how stupid they look.

Yes; it's standard operating procedure of the anti-Evo/anti-science crowd.

Thanks for pointing it out.

[D Edmund Joaquin]

As I said, I've heard about the caterwalling that went on in the evo threads, and you have not disappointed.

FOFL, so Eckleburg, have you figured out that the level of intelligence that you're dealing with here is about second year of high school level? They can't get beyond it, either in intellectual achievement or in flatulence jokes. It's like poking into a nest of demented flapdoodlebugs

[Wallace T.]

Fundamentalists largely have problems in my experience with just the very basics of theological thought.

Not all fundamentalists or evangelicals are on the order of Jack Chick or Peter Rucker, any more than the Soviet geneticist Lysenko is representative of advocates of "unguided" evolution or Hans Kung or Leonard Feeney are of Roman Catholicism. Evangelical Christian theology is essentially the theology of the Reformation. Present day Calvinist theologians like R.C. Sproul (PCA) or Albert Mohler (Southern Baptist) are part of a theological heritage stemming from Jesus and Paul, Augustine and other Church Fathers, the reformers John Calvin and John Knox, and theologians and preachers like Jonathan Edwards, Charles Spurgeon, and J. Gresham Machen into the present time.

It would appear that your experience with evangelical Christians and their beliefs is very limited.

[Cvengr]

The nuclear safety errors on the side of prudence. Evolutionary theory errors on the side of ignorance.

[Random Designer designer]

Hello Hetty,

You got it precisely. Would that more people were as insightful! Warmest regards.

[Random Designer designer]

Hello JFK_Lib

Indeed, it has been quite a stimulating existence of late.

An Op-Ed piece is slated for this weekend's edition of the York_Dispatch newspaper in Pennsylvania. There is an Intelligent design/evolution court case there between the ACLU and the Dover school board.

This should help you understand my thoughts on ID.

Warmest regards...
RGC

[JFK_Lib]

Thank you for mentioning it.

I hope you post link on a *seperate* thread!

Heheh.