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Former Senior Aide to Pat Buchanan Spoke at Holocaust Deniers’ Meeting
Israel National News ^ | 08:45 Dec 16, '04 / 4 Tevet 5765

Posted on 12/15/2004 11:22:09 PM PST by yonif

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To: SJackson

To change the subject slightly, I think that this association between Buchanan-type conservatives and the anti-Semitic far right is one of the most important answers to the question "Why do Jews vote for Democrats in such overwhelming numbers?" Jewish Americans who lived through WW2 (in their 70's today) remember the flirtation between isolationists on the far-right at the time and those who actually supported the Nazis at the time like the Bund outfits on the Upper East Side of NYC in Yorkville.

Philip Roth has written a paranoid fantasy about what might have happened if Charles Lindbergh had been nominated for the Republican Party instead of Wendell Willkie in 1940. Its very revealing of how much fear there was among the Jews of the time regarding the isolationist America First types of the time that Roth is still freaked out about it 60 odd years later.


61 posted on 12/16/2004 7:09:36 AM PST by babble-on
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To: babble-on

You're right, though Pat's been gone from the party long enough that no one should associate him with Republicans.


62 posted on 12/16/2004 7:19:44 AM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: Atigun
Am I a "denier"?

Yes, among other things.

63 posted on 12/16/2004 7:26:15 AM PST by NYC GOP Chick (www.Hillary-Watch.org)
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To: Nakatu X
I was in high school then, didn't know that much about him except that he was most conservative of all the Republican candidates in the primary

Actually, he's not very conservative, especially on economic matters. More of a leftist/populist there.

64 posted on 12/16/2004 7:32:36 AM PST by NYC GOP Chick (www.Hillary-Watch.org)
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To: Atigun
shall we just agree that ol' Atigun is just an a$$hole

Hell, YEAH!

65 posted on 12/16/2004 7:33:47 AM PST by NYC GOP Chick (www.Hillary-Watch.org)
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To: SJackson

Do you have some links to quotes from him on these things? I'd *love* to show them to some people who have their heads up their asses when it comes to this prick.


66 posted on 12/16/2004 7:36:21 AM PST by NYC GOP Chick (www.Hillary-Watch.org)
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To: NYC GOP Chick

I'll FR mail you some this afternoon.


67 posted on 12/16/2004 7:37:40 AM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: babble-on
To change the subject slightly, I think that this association between Buchanan-type conservatives and the anti-Semitic far right is one of the most important answers to the question "Why do Jews vote for Democrats in such overwhelming numbers?" Jewish Americans who lived through WW2 (in their 70's today) remember the flirtation between isolationists on the far-right at the time and those who actually supported the Nazis at the time like the Bund outfits on the Upper East Side of NYC in Yorkville.

I think you've really hit on something here.

68 posted on 12/16/2004 7:42:51 AM PST by NYC GOP Chick (www.Hillary-Watch.org)
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To: SJackson

Thanks -- but no rush on that. :)


69 posted on 12/16/2004 7:43:15 AM PST by NYC GOP Chick (www.Hillary-Watch.org)
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To: yonif

surprise, surprise. (/s)

i've never been comfortable with pat buchanan.

it's not so much what he says, as the smell afterwards.


70 posted on 12/16/2004 7:45:27 AM PST by ken21 (kerrycide = running 4 president on treasonous service in vietnam)
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To: yonif; veronica; Poohbah; Howlin; PhiKapMom; mhking; Luis Gonzalez; daviddennis; PRND21; ...

Gee, Pat's aides sure get around, don't they?

And he always seems to be whining about stuff.


71 posted on 12/16/2004 7:45:30 AM PST by hchutch (A pro-artificial turf, pro-designated hitter baseball fan.)
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White Nationalist Staffing US Immigration Reform PAC      

Established in 1993 as “FAIR PAC,” the US Immigration Reform Political Action Committee (USIRP) provides financial support to “immigration reform” political campaigns. This year, in addition to contributing $58261.21 to US House and Senate candidates, USIRP has been paying a white nationalist to help run the PAC.

According to records filed with the Federal Elections Commission, USIRP paid Peter Gemma a total of $7740.00 for "clerical and administrative work" thusfar in 2004. He also received a $500.00 payment from USIRP in 2003 for "Direct mail production."

 

According to his bio, Gemma is "an award-winning freelance writer who has penned more than 100 commentaries for USA Today. He served as a senior staff member on the 2000 Buchanan presidential campaign." Left out of the biography is his current position as head of "Design, Marketing, and Advertising" for the Council of Conservative Citizens newsletter, the Citizens Informer.

 

Headquartered in St. Louis, Missouri, the Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC) is the largest white nationalist group in the United States today. The CCC is the modern incarnation of the Citizens Councils of America, more commonly known as the White Citizens Councils of the 1960's.

 

The Citizens Councils fought to maintain segregation and actively promoted white supremacy. Today, all of the Council of Conservative Citizen core issues are racially charged: official recognition of Confederate battle flags, preserving monuments to the Confederacy, attacks against affirmative action and non-white immigration. In writing about immigration, the Citizens Informer has complained that minorities were turning the U.S. population into a "slimy brown mass of glop" - an act likened to "genocide."

 

Gemma has a history of white nationalist activism:

 

·         In Arlington, Virginia on Feb. 24, 2004, Gemma spoke at a meeting of the Holocaust Denial outfit, the Institute for Historical Review, where he introduced IHR head Mark Weber.

 

·         At the June 20, 2003 Council of Conservative Citizens conference Gemma delivered speech ridiculing African-Americans entitled “The Latest Indignity: Reparations.”

 

·         In 2002, Gemma attended the "Real History" Conference of British Holocaust Denier David Irving in Cincinnati, Ohio. During the August 30 - September 2 event, Gemma handled the money for the Occidental Quarterly table.

 

·         In 2000, Gemma shared the platform with white supremacist notables including David Duke and Don Black at an American Friends of the British National Party event in Virginia.

 

As of the Oct 15, 2004 FEC filing deadline, USIRP had contributed $25,500 to 20 Federal candidates running in the November General Election. This year, they also contributed $31761.21 to 14 primary candidates in 12 states. The current USIRP president is Mary Lou Tanton, wife of Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) founder John Tanton. The treasurer is longtime FAIR board member William Chip.



72 posted on 12/16/2004 7:51:42 AM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: Atigun
not all the jews were gassed or even cremated after they were murdered

and no these are not photoshopped pictures

73 posted on 12/16/2004 8:01:45 AM PST by freepatriot32 (http://chonlalonde.blogspot.com)
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To: reagandemo

Thanks much. The Jewish Holocaust was real as was the Armenian Holocaust/Jihad by Turkey. There have been other genocides thru history. The Killing Fields of Cambodia are also reality.


74 posted on 12/16/2004 8:02:51 AM PST by dennisw (Help put the "Ch" back in Chanukah)
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To: Atigun
It takes approximately 58 grains of type 4831 propellant to provide a 150 grain projectile with 2800 feet per second velocity from a 24 inch barrel...

Tried it yoursefl, have you?

except when it is not politically correct to state such physical exercise so it is no longer correct to allow such calculations to interfere with the political statements because actual political density of correct think does not allow un-think to achieve imperfect correct think. You right, no doubt.

You are denying the words of all the Americans soldiers that entered western German concentration camps in 1945. They were all liars, of course, and you are right! Or comments alleged to have come from them are all faked!

The little problem with that is that you've never even talked to a vet that went into one of those camps.

Don't have another orgasism over all this attention, you really aren't worth the trouble of ridiculing. You deny the words of thousands of American soldiers who saw it first-hand. Call them liars, and believe what you will because their testimony of the truth doesn't matter to you.

75 posted on 12/16/2004 8:13:16 AM PST by xJones
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To: dennisw
Back a few years I was having coffee with a gentleman who's office was next door to mine and a fellow came in and started talking about the Holocaust and how if was a made up nonexistent event created by the Jews to get the world into the war. I told him that he was totally mistaken and that my father had personally witnessed the results of what the Nazi's did. The guy then asked me what my heritage was. I without hesitation told him that I was of Native American, Irish and German decent. With that he said figures. I asked him what figures. He said that I was a dirty half breed. Hummm never thought of me that way but if so OK I'm Damn proud of it too. There are real dumb people in this world. Unfortunately a bunch of them are dangerous too.
76 posted on 12/16/2004 8:17:12 AM PST by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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To: Atigun

Krup=Krupps

I'm so glad your mom has gotten over her slave labor camp experience for a damn good cup of Joe. Does your point have anything to do with denying the existence of the holocaust? Does your point have anything to do with denying 6 million Jews were murdered?

No.


77 posted on 12/16/2004 8:52:17 AM PST by sully777 (our descendants will be enslaved by political expediency and expenditure)
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To: freepatriot32; Atigun

Regarding your pictures:

The Germans were PROUD. Some Nazi sympathizers in Britain and America (Joe Kennedy and Henry Ford) were absolutely elated by Hitler's regime and the Final Solution to the Jewish Problem. So, it wouldn't surprise some that these pictures were taken as tokens of achievement.

What you are looking at is a 20th century version of a medievel tapestries that celebrated the massacre at Beziers, or the burning of Erasmus and Tyndale.


78 posted on 12/16/2004 9:04:36 AM PST by sully777 (our descendants will be enslaved by political expediency and expenditure)
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To: yonif

Although it is wrong to arbitrarily assign blame to Pat Buchanan for the whatever one of his associates may say some years later, one could say that Pat has brought some questions to the table by his words over the past few years.

Personally I think what we see in Buchanan is the slow accretion of latent biases coming out as the man ages. Haven't you all seen something like this in your own families or acquaintances.


79 posted on 12/16/2004 9:07:44 AM PST by wildbill
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To: SJackson

The problem is not so much Pat himself, but the fact that the existence of nutbags like Pat serves to perpetuate the paranoia of Jewish voters who remember, or whose parents remember, a time when Pat-type thinking was a pretty big part of the Republican party.

Pat is like the Archetypal devil for people who lived through a really difficult time, when national leaders like Henry Ford or Charles Lindbergh were openly sympathetic to the Nazi party and willing to say that the Jews were trying to get America into an unneeded war with a fine man like Hitler for commercial or financial reasons. Its probably no coincidence that the mainstream media has made Buchanan and Novak into the ideal "Republicans" for the public to see, when in fact neither of them actually is.

I mean by the same token of letting the fringe scare one away from the mainstream, the reason I don't vote for Democrats is that I believe that they have not really come to terms with the evils of Socialism. Likewise, there is a big part of the left in the US who are pretty reasonable on many issues, but who think that the Republicans still harbor sympathies with the Birchers and America Firsters. And in fact to whatever extent that (in my opinion) ugly segment of American politics does exist it probably is basically Republican.

Buchanan's roots go right to Father Coughlin. Political parties exist on a spectrum, and the spectrum of the Republican party is more likely to include Buchananite logic that the Democrats are.


80 posted on 12/16/2004 9:13:24 AM PST by babble-on
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