Posted on 12/15/2004 7:26:47 PM PST by nanak
RINO-OBL...
I like that.
The article related to that is here at 'Center fo Immigration Studies' CIS: (but I doubt you will take the time to read anything outside of your own pro-illegal/ liberal belief system)
Okey doke, whatever you say and by the way I'm not pro-illegal, but pro-bringing sanity to the system. Face it, the US has 8 million undocumented and illegal people, who the vast majority are, Christian, hard working and law abiding(other than crossing the border to take menial jobs as dishwashers and janitors).
What is wrong with having a documented guest worker make your bed or bus your table. Is it wrong, that he/she may send some money back home. Was it wrong for an Irish worker to send his/her earned money back to Ireland, while in America hearing the slurs of "dirty Irish" and seeing signs "Irish need not need apply", in the early 20th century. The same could go for Poles, Italians, and Jews.
The point I assume you will make is that these people assimilated in the early 20th century. Yes they did, but back then they didn't have a political party that wants to keep them in perpetual political slavery(modern democrats) with slogans and empty promises.
The point I'm making is that the vast majority of these people don't want to be political slaves and wish to join the melting pot, and are getting conflicting signals from the far right who knee jerkingly call them dirty Mexicans and from the democrats who patronize them for votes to keep them in their political slavery.
JMO, your sides animus throws them into the arms of the democrats, but with President Bush's extending a welcoming hand to Hispanics and immigrants and his success in reaching out, hillary has found out that patronizing to Hispanics is a lost cause, and now she is on a cynical stategy to whip up xenophobic concerns on the far right for a quest of power.
And you guys eat up the red meat, hillary throws your way.
I'd rather have a person as President who reaches out(Bush), rather than a cynical power hungry politician who preys on emotion(hillary), especially with her having a hand in pardoning FALN terrorists.
I never stated you, Travis McGee, in my reply #416, I stated some on your side of the arguement.
Nice try at making yourself the victim, though.
jesse jackson would be proud, IMO.
And why didn't Bush's justice department do something about those pardons?
And it will be people like you who drive former republicans to Hillary with your shrillness, deception and want of cheap labor at our cost. I want a president who will keep his oath to enforce the law. You promote anarchy.
Uh respect for the office of Presidency. It is in the Constitution that pardoning power is a Presidential perview, but that doesn't matter to you, you I assume were probably a Perot supporter in 92, reading your rhetoric.
I never voted for Clinton or Perot so I have a clear conscience and feel free to rightly criticize the Clinton's(bill and hillary) pardoning of terrorists(FALN) and slimeballs like Marc Rich.
You assume alot. Shows how objectively you think . Do you have crystal balls?
I wasn't the one who declared Reagan regreated the amnesty of 1986. I was the one who pointed out the proof you offered was suspect. It is not my responsibility to prove the opposite of your assertions. The fact that Reagan signed the amnest is pretty much solid proof he endorsed it.
Huh you were the one assumed that a Bush administration Justice dept. could do something about the Clintons abysmal pardons, when it is stated in the Constitution that pardons are Presidential perview and can't be challenged.
As for crystal balls, why don't you ask Travis who thinks that the US is on its way to becoming another Mexico, echoing, IMO, such doomsdayers in the early 20th century who said the Irish, Poles, and Jews, would be the demise of the US.
OK, I understand your point. Once an illegal has obtained a fake social security card and a fake birth cirtificate gettting a valid state ID or drivers license is simplely a matter of paying for them at the counter.
Huh, when some on your side post such things as "praise Hilary when she flashes you all", or something similar, ad nauseum it makes one on the right side say "hmmm".
BARF ALERT!
It's all yours, bud, propagandize away! You have FR permission to spread your nonsense, you don't need mine. Go annoy someone else.
Second: Sealing of ALL Borders, permanently.
Third: Discussion of fixing our broken Immigration System and Laws.
Uh Dave your side on FR is eating up hillary's strip show towards you.
I wouldn't be surprised if some on your side are putting dollars between those plump thighs.
Wrong. Besides being in the country illegally, many illegal aliens are working illegally, used fraudulent documentation to acquire their jobs, are driving illegally, and are receiving welfare/food stamps illegally. If an American did most of these things, they'd probably be sitting in a prison cell right now.
It's all yours, bud, propagandize away! You have FR permission to spread your nonsense, you don't need mine. Go annoy someone else
Not annoying anyone, just posting my opinion. Sorry that you don't like it.
Mortal Krackdracke
Yeah right, the welfare queen buying steak and shrimp on food stamps is in prison.
White Nationalist Group Targets Free Republic For Infiltration
This shows who Tom's allies are.
U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo said, “We’re screwed, President Bush is an open borders guy.”
And another white supremacy website.
Mr. Tancredo is also the lead sponsor of the “Mass Immigration Reduction Act,” or H.R. 2712, which abolishes dual citizenship and sets a five-year moratorium on immigration. After the moratorium, the President would have to show that immigration would not damage the environment, reduce wages, or strain public facilities like schools and hospitals. Mr. Tancredo has gone toe to toe with the Bush administration over immigration, and has constantly opposed attempts to amnesty illegals. The right man in Congress can make a lot of trouble.
White Nationalist Group Targets Free Republic For Infiltration
It doesn't explain anything unless you can show where a particular poster is part of that infiltration. It's not an excuse to run around making accusations.
This shows who Tom's allies are.
U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo said, “We’re screwed, President Bush is an open borders guy.”
And another white supremacy website.
Mr. Tancredo is also the lead sponsor of the “Mass Immigration Reduction Act,” or H.R. 2712, which abolishes dual citizenship and sets a five-year moratorium on immigration. After the moratorium, the President would have to show that immigration would not damage the environment, reduce wages, or strain public facilities like schools and hospitals. Mr. Tancredo has gone toe to toe with the Bush administration over immigration, and has constantly opposed attempts to amnesty illegals. The right man in Congress can make a lot of trouble.
What does your guilt-by-association theory make of the fact that ILW.COM- The Immigration Portal grudingly praised Tancredo on their website?
Light From The Dark Side: Why Tancredo May Be Right On The H Visa
Thanks to Rep. Tancredo, some relief for essential workers may come in 2004. The "BE REAL" Act provides a guest worker regime that does three very important things: (1) applies to all workers- professional and unskilled; (2) effectively abolishes "body shops"; and (3) links H visas to the domestic unemployment rate. The BE REAL Act would replace all current H nonimmigrant visas with a single H visa issued to those coming temporarily to perform work for which no American citizen or green card holder are available or qualified. The Department of Labor could not approve any labor condition applications in any occupation or geographic region if the unemployment rate exceeds 5% and the percentage of new hires who are H nonimmigrants is 15% or more. For the first time, US immigration policy would back away from its unhealthy fascination with educational credentials and focus instead on attracting specialized expertise to do the hard, dirty, and unglamorous jobs that remain fundamental to our information-based economy.
Interestingly, Rep. Tancredo has been bombarded with criticism from his usual supporters who claim that he has sold out.
HR 2712 was introduced in 2001. The BE REAL Act was introduced in 2003.
So American Renaissance liked something Tancredo did in 2001 and The Immigration Portal likes something he did last year. What does it all mean?
Nothing, really. Politics sometimes makes strange bedfellows.
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