Is There Life After Roe? HOW TO THINK ABOUT THE FETUS (abortion)

Catholics For Choice ^ | Winter 2004/2005 | Frances Kissling

[Lorianne]

Why isn't everyone doing more to prevent abortions?
To separate the wheat from the chafe on both sides of the argument I think the questions we should ask should be as follows? Choose one and explain how you will help bring it about ...

___ I think there should be fewer abortions
___ I think there should be the same amont of abortions
___ I think there should be more abortions

When you frame the "choice" this way, and ask people which they would choose and how they would personally act to achieve their choice ... you can cut out a lot of irrelevant issues on both sides of the abortion debate.

[Uncle Sham]

The best way for men to regain their stature in the courts is , well, in the courts. If a man being sued for "child support" quotes the Roe vs Wade opinion to support the fact that there is no such thing as a father, he can do so. For instance, if life does not begin at conception, as pro-choicer's want us to believe, whatever they want to call the fetus is not a human being and thus incapable of possessing a father. A lampshade cannot have a father. Only a human being can have one. If this "whatever" becomes a delivered living baby, how can a court trace it's father through it's existence by having a non-possessive state inserted in the middle between conception and childbirth? Challenge the child support system I say.

[so_real]

I'm not entirely sure what your point was, but: If you want to believe in "ensoulment" ... sure, why not. If you want to believe that ensoulment occurs at some point other than conception ... more power to you. If you want to believe that ensoulment occurs the first time the child draws a breath of air ... that's as good a time as any.

If you want to excuse the murder of a child up until the first time it draws a breath of air ... simply "no", period.

I don't know what your situation is. I don't know if you've had an abortion or care about someone who has had abortion. I don't know if you are struggling to rationalize this atrocity to ease someone's troubled mind. But, there is no valid rationalization for purposefully ending a life before the due time appointed by God.

It is inexcusable ... but not unforgiveable. If it were not possible for Jesus to wash this sin clean, there would be no purpose in it troubling our conscience or burdening our thoughts. Our conscience is a tool to let us know that forgiveness is needed. Where forgiveness is needed it is available for the asking, and Jesus waits patiently ...

[Sonny M]

Children in high school should be taught graphically about the abortion process, videos and everything. Complete detail. And partial-birth abortion should get its own chapter.

I like the idea, but I think it can be done a bit differenly.

Children in grade school, are naturally pro-life. Ask small children what they think when they see soon to be expectant mothers. They think babies.

Its the political abortionist crowd that brainwashes them into thinking that a woman who is pregnant is not carrying a child or that that child isn't real.

If we keep the basis on sound science, basic biology, not even sex ed, from grade school on, like we teach (or should teach) math, the pro-abortion crowd would be exposed for the sick psychopaths they are.