Should The F-22 be cancelled?

26-nov,2004 | Me

[Haro_546]

read "Systems", Im sorry.

[mad_as_he$$]

First I disagree with your fundamental premise. How can you say they have no place?

1. F15's are getting tired and more expensive to maintain.

1.5. F14's are retired and F18's are NOT air superiority fighters

2. The Russians are developing a very similar aircraft and will sell it to anybody with the cash.

2.5. The Frogs are also working to develop similar technology.

3. It will increase our kill ratio, probably dramatically.

I might agree with you on the total number but the fundamental technology is vital.

[Haro_546]

It can not be deployed by Carrier. Plus the Chinese probably have a barrage of missiles for it.

[John Valentine]

How about- Read: "foreseeable", "useful", "systems", "costs", and "What's".
As for the gist of your question, I don't know enough to respond...

[Ptarmigan]

I like the F-22. I think they should develop zeppelins.

[MHak]

I'm not sure yet.

I have read some articles (can't remember where) that said in some war-games, the Indian AF held their own against the U.S. and one with China where the results showed that the only aircraft that could both range and evade the Air Defenses was the B-2.

I agree with you in that with the type of combat we are seeing today, and in the foreseeable future (10 years or so), the current aircraft are preforming well, even to the point of no one being able to match us.

Acquisition programs run well beyond 10 years, however, especially for high-tech aircraft.

Just my 2-cents.

[PeteB570]

If you (a country) are not moving forward in military technology you are not even standing still. You are falling behind.

When a major war starts it's too late to try to catch-up with somebody else on the technology side of things.

[Long Cut]

Ping. Have fun.

[Haro_546]

Air dominance is better insured by better missile/bomb/satellites than by Ultra advance and expensive planes.

[Haro_546]

:(

[-=Wing_0_Walker=-]

Stop the F22? NO. Air superiority isn't the only reason. American jobs. Advanced aerospace technology development and knowledge. Scientific advancement. Spin offs that enhance the rest of the economy and manufacturing (until it is off shored).

[deport]

This type of aircraft has no place in the modern battlefield and Foreseeable conflicts. The money could be put into more usefull sistems (each unit cost about $235 million for 239 planes) Whats your opinion?

---

My opinion is that you haven't specified your bonafides to which you make a declarative statement that the aircraft has on place in the modern battlefield and Foreseeable conflicts.

What are the 'more useful sistems' that you think it should be replaced with and why?

[Haro_546]

replace them with the F-35s, the F-22 is way too expensive and other cheaper technology can replace its role.

[Petronski]

Last time I heard, the Commandant of the Corps wants it, for rapid insertion/extraction.

[demlosers]

It's a bad plane for a situation like Iraq.

We own the skies over Iraq. Winning ground wars depend on us owning the air space now and in the future.

[Haro_546]

:p

[rlmorel]

I agree with PeteB570. As a former USN Jet Mechanic and aviation buff, this is true. We MUST move forward with the V22 and F22, overcome the teething and design difficultes. They are not the first systems with serious problems.

[Gritty]

The system costs a lot of money.

Not having air superiority in the next major war (China?) a decade or two down the line will cost us a lot more.

[Defendingliberty]

Let's dump the military and spend all the money cloning an Army of Jimmy Carters....(It's easy to think like a liberal.)