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The Drugstore War
cbs ^ | 11-23-04

Posted on 11/23/2004 7:36:40 PM PST by LouAvul

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To: truth_seeker; Pitiricus
I agree. A proprietor should not be forced to carry products he does not feel comfortable selling. It's his business.

That said, in areas like this, he shouild be at least nice enough to post signs to that effect, to spare people (customers) the embarassment and added difficulty. That would be the polite, decent thing to do, and no one would be inconvinienced or troubled.

The fact that some pharmacists DO NOT take that rather obvious step, but prefer to get a customer to the desk and preach while still refusing to serve them, is patently rude and suggests that they WANT that opportunity to be a jerk.

I really have no problem with people acting on strong beliefs, if they do not violate another's rights. No one's rights were apparently violated here, but the proprietor certainly did behave as a jerk.

141 posted on 11/27/2004 5:08:48 PM PST by Long Cut (The Constitution...the NATOPS of America!)
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To: LouAvul
And he believes birth control is tantamount to abortion.

It would be a great idea for the GOP to frame the Abortion Question in this very Context.

Anyone who has ever used Birth Control is an Abortionist.

142 posted on 11/27/2004 5:17:42 PM PST by pete anderson
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To: Pitiricus
It is a potential... What makes a human being is personhood, brain... I have posted a lot of studies showing that the brain isn't wired before the 21st-24th week of gestation...

I'm not trying to argue whether or not it's a person... I'm just trying to argue that whether or not its a person is the only relevant issue. "choice", etc. has nothing to do with it if it is in fact a person.

143 posted on 11/27/2004 5:21:21 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along)
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To: pete anderson
"It would be a great idea for the GOP to frame the Abortion Question in this very Context."

"Anyone who has ever used Birth Control is an Abortionist."

If the GOP did this, it would be consigned to electoral oblivion, and branded a hopelessly extremist party. And rightfully so.

144 posted on 11/27/2004 5:21:22 PM PST by Long Cut (The Constitution...the NATOPS of America!)
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To: Long Cut
After they condemn all the home abortionists who use the pill or condoms they can then condemn all those that use them electrical light bulbs and horseless carriages.
145 posted on 11/27/2004 5:43:54 PM PST by pete anderson
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To: pete anderson
I was hoping you were being sarcastic. Nowadays, on FR, it can be hard to tell.

I've seen people advocate banning ALL contraception here.

146 posted on 11/27/2004 5:59:11 PM PST by Long Cut (The Constitution...the NATOPS of America!)
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To: Pitiricus

You're ok with cut-n-paste, are those your thoughts as well?

"So personhood as defined by the brain starts at about 22 weeks of gestation...

Until then, abortion should be on demand... After only if the health or life of the woman host is at risk... Which actually would be perfectly OLK with Roe v. Wade... "

But NOT Doe-v-Bolton, the companion case.

But you failed to answer my questions, care to try? Or is cut-n-paste the extent of your interest?


147 posted on 11/27/2004 6:27:13 PM PST by narses (Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family + Vivo Christo Rey!)
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To: truth_seeker

How is an abortificant "medicine"?


148 posted on 11/27/2004 6:28:35 PM PST by narses (Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family + Vivo Christo Rey!)
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To: narses
How is an abortificant "medicine"?

I don't know how to define "medicine" so I just used a simple, common word, for my thought.

Did you understand? Would it satisfy you if I substitute "pharmacy products" for "medicines?"

It has the same meaning, either way.

Do you agree or disagree with my MAIN point?

149 posted on 11/27/2004 6:41:37 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker

truth_seeker,

And in California, where I also live, a Pharmacist cannot prescribe drugs, as that is the responsibility of guess who, the Doctor.




The baby killers have a CHOICE on where they get to buy their killing drugs, let them CHOOSE somewhere else.

Amazing how the baby killers want to have all the CHOICES, but no one else can have a CHOICE, huh?

Where is the father's Choice.....
Where is the baby's Choice....

Drugs are a Product, and NOT A RIGHT. Some of you need to realize that. It is the Doctor writing the prescriptions, how about blaming them for not steering their killers towards a place that actually sells those drugs...

Oh, I know, how about the MORONIC WOMAN and MAN CHOOSING to put themselves in that situation... Guess What, THEY made their CHOICE of being STUPID in the first place.

Well, at least they get to exercise their JOINT Stupidity before only the STUPID IRRESPONSIBLE people then KILL the child...

Typical Liberal responses here....

Only the woman gets to choose, no one else gets to choose, they all must submit to the woman's CHOICE of being STUPID....

Hypocrites....

Regards,
Joe


150 posted on 11/27/2004 6:49:53 PM PST by Sonar5 (60+ Million have Spoken Clearly - "We Want Our Country Back")
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To: Sonar5

I know,

Why stop at Drugs and prescriptions...

Let's say you injure your ankle, and the doctor says you need to use crutches.

But guess what, the local Pharmacy (Child Killers R Us), doesn't sll them.

Now we have disenfranchised liberals running all over town with injured ankles... What a Travesty....

Where does it stop, why only these pills?????

My stores don't carry my favorite BBQ Sauce, Open Pit...

Should we boycott them, write to newspaper editors all over town and demand my rights to BBQ Sauce and Crutches have been abused.

Face it folks, we are not all entitled to every single thing in the world. No store carries every single Drug either.

Should we boycott Ace Hardaware because they don't carry Washing Machines, and Home depot does?

This Pharmacist has a right to sell whatever he wants to or does not want to.

Regards,
Joe


151 posted on 11/27/2004 7:03:24 PM PST by Sonar5 (60+ Million have Spoken Clearly - "We Want Our Country Back")
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To: truth_seeker

"Would it satisfy you if I substitute "pharmacy products" for "medicines?""

I dunno, could you agree to suicide pills and other murder weapons in your definition of "pharmacy products"?


152 posted on 11/27/2004 7:04:43 PM PST by narses (Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family + Vivo Christo Rey!)
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To: narses

"I dunno, could you agree to suicide pills and other murder weapons in your definition of "pharmacy products"?"

Sure that is okay. Too many legitimately prescribed pain pills, become deadly.

Self-administered, I suppose you could call them "suicide pills."

Too much pain can kill, too. So is the doctor killing by prescribing, or for failing to prescribe?

You are taking me round and round, with your word games.

Under various circumstances I suppose these pain medications could also be suicide pills, and even murder weapons.

I quit. You win. You are smarter.


153 posted on 11/27/2004 8:16:47 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker

Thanks, glad to help in your search for truth. It appears, that for you, the truth is that death and medicine are co-equals. Freedom is Slavery. Peace is War.


154 posted on 11/27/2004 8:29:22 PM PST by narses (Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family + Vivo Christo Rey!)
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To: Pitiricus
The difference is that a baby can be cared for by a variety of people and is not a parasite on one organism...
Your logics is very flawed...

That is a distinction without a difference. YOUR logic is quite flawed, but your argument is with mother nature, not me.

155 posted on 11/27/2004 9:12:05 PM PST by TradicalRC (I'd rather live in a Christian theocracy than a secular democracy.)
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To: Pitiricus
I must say, my husband and I did look at the product of abortion after I aborted (first trimester) and it looked exactly like my period... So to say this is a HUMAN being is where your logics is flawed... It is a potential... An acorn is not a tree, neither is a fetus a person...

So because you got an abortion you cannot admit that its a life? I've seen people in road accidents that probably looked exactly like your period too, I guess nobody really died because they no longer LOOKED human.

156 posted on 11/27/2004 9:15:53 PM PST by TradicalRC (I'd rather live in a Christian theocracy than a secular democracy.)
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To: Long Cut
I've seen people advocate banning ALL contraception here.

Yes. I'm one of them. Artificial contraception is THE alpha of the gay rights movement. It is malum in se. And no one who practices it should pretend to be a Christian.

157 posted on 11/27/2004 9:24:37 PM PST by TradicalRC (I'd rather live in a Christian theocracy than a secular democracy.)
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To: TradicalRC; Modernman; Melas; middie
I just want to be clear with what you're saying. I gather from your handle that you're a traditional Catholic, and therefore artificial birth control is outside your beliefs. That's okay and cool; certainly, no one's forcing you to use it, and anyone doing so would rightly be laughed out of politics.

First, do you support a LEGAL, government-enforced ban on artificial contraception of all types?

Second, given that not all Christians are members of sects which proscribe contraception, isn't it a bit, well, rude to suggest they aren't Christian? They certainly believe in Christ's divinity, just not RC dogma on that subject.

Third, what has contraception to do with gay rights? Some forms of it can reduce the chance of HIV infection, but that's only one form. Gays don't NEED contraception.

"It is Malum in Se"

Why? While it might run counter to some sect's dogma and beliefs, this does NOT make it "evil in and of itself".

And finally, myself and my wife have one child; we do not wish for another for a year or two. Given that we are of no particular religious sect banning contraception, why should we be banned from its use based on yours?

If you were NOT advocating a LEGAL ban, then my questions are mostly moot. Well, they are anyway, as no such ban is ever likely to gain any serious support, but I am curious as to the mindset of advocating such.

158 posted on 11/28/2004 10:54:45 AM PST by Long Cut (The Constitution...the NATOPS of America!)
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To: Long Cut

Huh ? This could not have been intended for me. I am Presbyterian and agree completely with Roe v. Wade and its progeny cases. Public policy and constitutional interpretation should not be dictated by religiously driven ideology or the imposition of a particular religious dogma on the subject as it relates to the options available to rational adults.


159 posted on 11/28/2004 7:37:30 PM PST by middie
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To: TradicalRC
Yes. I'm one of them. Artificial contraception is THE alpha of the gay rights movement.

Huh? What does contraception have to do with the gay rights movement? The pill is not really necessary for lesbians or gay men, just as one example.

And no one who practices it should pretend to be a Christian.

Perhaps that is what your Church teaches, but not all Christians agree with that interpretation.

In any event, even if you can make an argument that the pill is equivalent to abortion and should therefore be banned, there is no way you can make the same argument for every type of contraception, such as condoms.

160 posted on 11/29/2004 7:14:21 AM PST by Modernman (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin)
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