Posted on 11/20/2004 8:55:57 PM PST by Lessismore
But but but eleanor clift said nothing will come of this meeting.
Forgive me when I call you an idiot.
"Thank GOD Carter Powell is on the way OUT."
This sentence makes no sense.
You know part of the uncomfortable job of Secretary of State is putting forward the policy positions the USA has had for years and years. That would include Powell's statement on Taiwan. This was not him putting forward his own opinion, that was him putting forward the consistent policy of the United States. Can you criticise the policy without demonizing the spokesman?
Gosh, perhaps your handle would be more appropriately changed to "BIC" for a BIC is a d@mn good lighter!
Talked with loved one tonight who's likely moving to China soonish. Has visited in the last year.
Said there's abundant talk of China invading Taiwan even in 2005 and highly probable no later than 2006 so it doesn't sabotage the 2008 Olympics.
Evidently the talk on the Chinese street is frequently about such.
The Chinese street is not always 100% accurate. However, everyone knows someone working in some position to know. Many 'secrets' are routinely outted in China.
We shall see.
Simply stated, it's not going to happen.
Seems to still be an open question to me.
I believe there are lots of contingencies involved.
One of the important ones, imho, is prayer on the part of believers around the world.
I've seen prophetic messages in both directions--which affirms to me that the issue is very conditional.
I'm not optimistic. But, we shall see. I do believe that if they attack Taiwan, they will also attack the USA.
Certainly the puppet masters would be eager to have WWIV coerce the world's populace into the global government. They have been itching for it for quite some time.
I just don't know when God will allow it to cut loose.
I pray we have several more years of relative peace to work while there's still some 'light.'
Yes, I've read Poohbah and others insisting that China's not so stupid; China's military can't begin to match ours etc.
None of these analyses, imho, takes into adequate consideration Chinese pride and arrogant cussedness in the interest of national pride in addition to leadership pride. I still say--they'd easily lose more than 500,000,000 citizens just in the name of leadership OR national pride. And, sadly, a LOT of those citizens would also agree that it was a reasonable price to pay.
The economic thing would be far secondary and something they would feel they could easily overcome in a more than acceptably short time.
They somewhat reasonably see the USA as in inevitable decline and their star as rising economically, militarily and in terms of control of the planet. They are itching to make it a more overt reality and believe that nothing can stop them.
I'm more than quite confident of this analysis. I have far too many data points toward it over too many recent years of close observation and querying astute residents of Mainland China.
It is NOT going to happen, at least in our lifetime.
We shall see.
I hope you are right but believe you are wrong.
I am curious on what you base such a strong conviction!
Nothing can stop them but the fall of the USA economic system which is the integral part that maintains their optimistic growth outlook.
D@mn, that puts them in a "catch22" situation doesn't it?
Following Clintoons remarks, and following Powell's more recent remarks much independence talk BEGAN here in Taiwan.
Only when pushed to reunify with Red China do the average Taiwanese risk speaking in favor of independence.
By far the majority want to keep the status quo.
Common sense, (most of all) the understanding of what maintains the Chinese economy, and time spent in Hong Kong and Beijing.
They don't see it that way.
And, our X TRILLION debt doesn't help our side a bit.
They feel they will merely replace the USA as the world's leader economically and in virtually every other way. They see it as their due; their right; their ability and even as their DUTY.
Virtually every analysis I read on this matter seems to be very USA centric in a list of blinding ways. And, even a lot of experienced China Westerners can't seem to read many obvious signs. My only explanation beyond being spiritually blinded to the truths involved is a kind of wishful thinking on the part of Westerners who somewhat compulsively have to see China as terminally disadvantaged compared to us.
The Chinese certainly don't have that perspective.
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