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Wheat - the new red meat
Las Vegas Mercury ^ | 11/18/04 | Newt Briggs

Posted on 11/18/2004 8:48:52 PM PST by MarMema

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To: justshe
My husband is really fortunate to have as his doctor, Ed Catteau. He took care of President Reagan when he had colon cancer. Dr. Catteau is in Memphis, Tenn., but my husband was diagnosed in Virgina and the doctors there recommended Dr. Catteau as we live near Memphis.
61 posted on 11/19/2004 9:10:43 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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FReepmail me if you want on or off my health and science ping list.


62 posted on 11/19/2004 9:12:00 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: bk1000
This disease is nothing to joke about. My husband was at the point of death when he was diagnosed with Celiac.
63 posted on 11/19/2004 9:14:52 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: CDHart
Yes. You can go to the health food store and find all kinds of gluten free products. You can also go on line and find things. There is a lot of stuff out there.
64 posted on 11/19/2004 9:17:01 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: MarMema
Below is an excellent WSJ article about the pyramid. http://www.atkinsdietcd.com/html/refined_carbohydrate_risks_-_l.html Below this news story are about 100 links alerting you to the dangers of Refined Carbohydrates causing obesity, and examples of those foods. Also check out Dangers of a "Diabetic" Diet. The Government's Food Pyramid Correlates to Obesity, Critics Say By JILL CARROLL Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL With obesity reaching epidemic proportions in the U.S., some critics say it's the government's food pyramid that should go on a diet. Certainly Dr. Atkins' work has fueled this debate over the last decade, bringing changes to the government's recommendations for carbohydrate daily intake. The pyramid, dating from 1991, pictorially reflects the U.S. Department of Agriculture's guidelines on what Americans should eat every day to maintain a healthy weight. From a broad base of six to 11 servings of food in the grains-and-carbohydrates group, the pyramid narrows upward to fewer servings of vegetables and fruits, to fewer still of such foods as milk and meat. Finally, at the pyramid's pointed top are fats, oils and sweets, which consumers are advised to "eat sparingly." While the government has stood by this regimen for 11 years, some critics say it's no coincidence that the number of overweight Americans has risen 61% since the pyramid was introduced -- and almost instantaneously appeared on the sides of pasta boxes, bread wrappers and packages of other food products in the pyramid's six-to-11-servings category. David S. Ludwig, an obesity researcher at Children's Hospital in Boston, says the pyramid and guidelines focus too much on reducing fat. He says people are getting fat because they are eating too many refined carbohydrates, such as those in white bread, that make them feel hungrier later so they overeat. The habitual consumption of foods with refined carbohydrates "may increase risk for obesity, type 2 diabetes, and heart disease," he wrote in a May article in the Journal of the American Medical Association. Steven Christensen, an official at the USDA's Center for Nutrition Policy and Promotion, says the pyramid represents guidelines for healthy eating -- not the next fad diet. "It wasn't meant as a way to reduce your weight, but if you eat this way, you're going to be all right." The debate is particularly relevant in that the USDA currently is reviewing its dietary guidelines, as it does every five years. It's an exercise that attracts not only critics from the world of medicine but industry lobbyists and those promoting the virtues of various food groups and diets. During the last revision, the advisory committee considered changing the 1995 recommendation of adhering to a diet "moderate" in salt and sugar to "eating less salt and sugar." The powerful sugar industry fought the change, and the guidelines now tell consumers to "moderate your intake of sugars." (The "less salt" revision stuck.) Unlike the guidelines, the pyramid isn't reviewed periodically. But the USDA decided recently to review the pyramid's serving sizes and try to make the depiction clearer for the guide's 10th anniversary -- an exercise that has produced a flood of suggestions. Among the most vocal of the pyramid's critics is Walter Willett, chairman of the Harvard School for Public Health's nutrition department. "The pyramid really ignored 40 years of data and condemned all fats and oils," he says. While the pyramid indicates that only fat calories count, Dr. Willet says, "calories are calories." He and other critics say the government's focus on reducing calories from fat has helped propel sales of low-fat foods that still pack a lot of calories -- SnackWell cookies, for example, and potato chips made with the fake fat Olestra. "That probably has contributed to the explosion in obesity," says Dr. Willett, who is an unpaid consultant on a clinical trial comparing low-fat and low-carbohydrate diets. The trial is funded by the Robert C. Atkins Foundation, which advocates the Atkins low-carbohydrate diet. But many mainstream dietitians argue that the Atkins low-carbohydrate diet is dangerous because it has too much fat and that cutting out any food group isn't healthy. Plus, there have been no long-term studies on the effects of the diet and whether people can keep the weight off. Some experts think other parts of the pyramid need changes as well. Some suggest beans be removed from the meat category, where they are placed because of their protein content, and moved to the vegetable category. If bottled-water companies get the government to issue specific advice to drink more water in the 2005 guidelines, as they are trying to do, that, too, could alter the pyramid. And then there is exercise. "What I would like to see chiseled in the side of the pyramid are steps" and someone running up them to emphasize exercise, says Alice Lichtenstein, a professor of nutrition at Tufts University in Boston and a member of the committee that drew up the 2000 dietary guidelines. While the 40-page dietary-guidelines booklet advocates physical activity, the pyramid has no such message. Ms. Lichtenstein also says the dairy products pictured on the pyramid should be designated as low-fat or nonfat. "There's probably no one over the age of two that needs full fat [dairy products]," she says. It will be years before all the complaints are weighed, but the USDA, at least for now, doesn't seem inclined to abandon the basic premise that a low-fat diet is healthiest. "You can't pinpoint the cause of obesity … to carbohydrates," says the USDA's Mr. Christensen. Beyond the debate over fats and carbohydrates, many nutrition experts say the pyramid needs to better define serving size to be effective. Most people don't realize that one USDA-size grain serving is about the size of a mini bagel, says Marion Nestle, chairman of the Department of Nutrition and Food Studies at New York University. She also says the pyramid "emphases grain products too heavily without specifying whole grains ... They're not talking about white bread." Suzanne Murphy, a nutrition researcher at the University of Hawaii and vice chairman of the advisory panel that wrote the 2000 dietary guidelines, worries that consumers don't realize that all foods within a food group are not equally healthy. She is concerned consumers look at the recommended six-to-11 grain servings and "think that means six to 11 servings of cakes and cookies." Meanwhile, consumers are trying to sort through the conflicting messages. 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65 posted on 11/19/2004 9:20:23 AM PST by Grampa Dave (FNC/ABCNNBCBS & the MSM fishwraps are the Rathering Fraudcasters of America!)
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To: mariabush
Thanks! It's worth a try, IMO.

Carolyn

66 posted on 11/19/2004 9:27:22 AM PST by CDHart
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To: MarMema
Thanks for the ping. There are lots of interesting theories about why our health is not as good as it should be. It makes sense that dietary changes can reveal latent intolerances. If we were to all start eating caviar, we would probably discover a previously unsuspected group of people who are caviar intolerant. Seriously.

I have heard theories that a return to diets that were standard in one's country of origin even 200 years ago makes one feel much better. It isn't the same for everyone as would be implied by the theory that we need to return to a universal hunter-gatherer diet to be healthy -- northern Europeans developed under different conditions than did southern Europeans than did people from China, and one can safely assume that diets have been honed and adjusted over the centuries within each culture in a way that promotes feelings of health and well-being.

I have also heard interesting studies that seem to indicate that people who are around domestic livestock regularly are healthier than those who aren't -- the theory being that we developed together, and our immune systems mutually benefit. It would seem certain that the rapid changes of modern society are not good for our minds or our bodies...

Of course one can get pretty extreme about anything. The keys are to pay attention to major known intolerances (celiac, lactose intolerance, etc...), to pay attention to one's own diet and try to spot things that seem to help or hurt, and to eat as naturally as possible. (Says the guy who just downed a package of Cherry Nibs)...

I'm always fascinated by the anecdotal reports of the incredibly good health, long lives, alertness, and youthful appearance of ascetic monks in places like Mt. Athos.

67 posted on 11/19/2004 11:01:07 AM PST by Agrarian
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To: MarMema

I have never worried about any pyramid over the years. Instead, when I was raising my children, I followed what I'd been taught in junior high school back in the early 50's. Our teacher told us to "count colors".

The more colors in a meal, the healthier it is. To get a lot of colors, there must be such things as salads and fruit. Consequently, one has a balanced diet and doesn't overeat in any food category.


68 posted on 11/19/2004 12:30:09 PM PST by JudyB1938 ("A paranoid schizophrenic is somebody who just found out what's going on." - Wm S. Burroughs, Jr.)
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To: bluefish
"It was cutting out wheat that made me feel better."

I'm glad I don't have that problem. I love bread in all its forms and aspects. In fact, I can't think of any food that actively disagrees the way you describe, except for something I ate in Mexico once, but that's another story.

It is my firm belief that a solid 7-8 hours of uninterrupted sleep will solve many problems that people suffer from on a daily basis. Fatigue, inability to concentrate, irritability, lack of stamina, headache. You name it.

The need for sleep is built into us at the cellular level, and we suffer without it.

69 posted on 11/19/2004 2:03:06 PM PST by Batrachian
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To: timestax

bttt


70 posted on 11/19/2004 8:13:13 PM PST by timestax
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To: chilepepper

>> The food pyramid was created at the instigation of George McGovern, Democratic Senator from South Dakota and much beholden to Archer-Daniels-Midland

Liberals mess up every thing they touch.


71 posted on 11/19/2004 8:24:09 PM PST by PhilipFreneau (Jesus would never use government surrogates to force the people to "help others".)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

"Iff 99 out of 100 handle it OK, why the big attack?"

Read the article closer.

The point was that it's still toxic to some degree and no one digests it completely. To advertise it as health food is ridiculous.


72 posted on 11/19/2004 8:29:16 PM PST by webstersII
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To: Batrachian
I don't have that problem. I love bread in all its forms and aspects.

I actually did myself as well before discovering the problem. When going for long periods without it, I stop missing it. I actually recall that as a kid, I didn't really like bread. Perhaps I instinctively knew better as a kid and trained myself to eat bread as an adult?

Regarding sleep, I agree. Unfortuanately, I've had trouble sleeping my whole life. Haven't yet found the solution, but please anybody reading this, no tips. I've tried them already.

73 posted on 11/19/2004 8:47:30 PM PST by bluefish (Holding out for worthy tagline...)
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To: clodkicker
Shall we all make a list of what we are allergic to and ban these items for everyone?

Absolutely not, and I never implied such. I'm outraged for instance that children can't bring peanut butter sandwhich's to school due to other kids being allergic to them.

I was only pointing out that gluten intolerance is real, and that somebody else pointing it out is not necessarily a nutjob for pointing it out. Had some other author not done that, I myself might have continued to suffer from it.

Shall we ban people talking negatively about something, just because you may have a fondness for it?

And how many people eat wheat berries in its raw form? I think you are reaching.

74 posted on 11/19/2004 8:54:14 PM PST by bluefish (Holding out for worthy tagline...)
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To: Grampa Dave

Grampa, I suspect nobody is going to read that!


75 posted on 11/19/2004 8:56:03 PM PST by bluefish (Holding out for worthy tagline...)
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To: Jokelahoma

ROFL!


76 posted on 11/19/2004 10:03:30 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: bluefish

Apparently if someone stores something on the internet with an Apple, even though it looks good on the preview before posting, it looks like that after the post.


77 posted on 11/20/2004 6:41:55 AM PST by Grampa Dave (FNC/ABCNNBCBS & the MSM fishwraps are the Rathering Fraudcasters of America!)
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To: MarMema

Reading this made me hungry... I think I'll have toast with my eggs this morning.


78 posted on 11/20/2004 6:45:56 AM PST by rockprof
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To: MarMema

So, if you don't feel good, and don't know why, try laying off the wheat for a week. If you feel better, switch to rice, corn and barley.


79 posted on 11/20/2004 6:53:08 AM PST by JimRed (Investigate, overturn and prosecute vote fraud; turn more counties red!)
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To: mariabush

'This disease is nothing to joke about'

Sorry, I meant no disrespect. Truth is, gluten is almost everywhere. I remember having great difficulty in helping a friend find gluten-free products a few years ago.


80 posted on 11/20/2004 7:22:00 AM PST by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a bad memory)
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