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MARINE FACES QUESTIONING IN TAPED SHOOTING (REMOVED FROM BATTLEFIELD)
Alameda Times Star ^ | 11/17/04

Posted on 11/17/2004 9:02:43 AM PST by areafiftyone

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To: Mr. K

If that kid moved to my town, he's never pay for his own drinks again.


21 posted on 11/17/2004 9:14:18 AM PST by SMARTY ('Stay together, pay the soldiers, forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus, to his sons)
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To: areafiftyone

I hate the media even more, too. I called the DOD (703.428.0711) (among others)and told the PR person -- "I am mad as a hornet at the News Media about this. If I hadn't quit watching them already, I would quit now." She LAUGHED and thanked me for calling.


22 posted on 11/17/2004 9:14:33 AM PST by bboop
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To: areafiftyone
Marines pointed their guns at another prone Iraqi who was reaching out weakly with one hand, but they backed off without shooting at him, the videotape showed. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT PRISONER AND DEAD ONE IN QUESTION. If you are not clearly disarmed, under Geneva Convention Protocol 1 Article 37 you have NO claim to prisoner-of-war status. If you surrendur by a) holding up a white flag and/or b) present clear disarment without intent to betray your adversary's confidence that you are disarmed, THEN you are protected under Geneva.

Any less than that, and no person in combat is liable to hold their lives over yours. Period.

23 posted on 11/17/2004 9:14:51 AM PST by AbercrombieChick (The last time Democrats wanted to secede, it was because they wanted the right to own black people.)
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To: rudypoot
Dumbocrats are already talking about "US marine's mass graves". I guess four deaths of terrorist prisoners equals a mass grave but we still dont have a definition of WMD stockpile...

Liberals are hypochondriac exaggerating pu**ies that will say whatever it takes to sap military morale to get us out of Iraq. They've been using this same tired tactic for years now. Thankfully, the American people saw through it on Election day.

I have a feeling though that we are going to see an Abu Gharib-like response from the shrills at the Slimes and the rest of the lamestream media about this over the next few weeks.

24 posted on 11/17/2004 9:16:55 AM PST by GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
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To: areafiftyone
"It is hard for anyone to imagine the stress of urban combat -- the fatigue, the threat, the noise, the filth, the death," a senior Marine officer said Tuesday. "But if the incident turns out to have occurred as it appeared in the video, then it is inexcusable. Understandable perhaps, but not excusable."

I wonder what potential recruits contemplating joining up are thinking when they see marines in the field receiving this kind of support from their 'sr officers'?

Not actually being on the scene, a simple statement of confidence in the decision made by your man would be more useful, all things considered.

At least don't legitimize the media witchhunt, jeez.

25 posted on 11/17/2004 9:18:17 AM PST by skeeter
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To: areafiftyone
HE WAS NOT A PRISONER! The Iraqi was pretending to be dead so he would not be taken .... you don't take the dead prisoner!
26 posted on 11/17/2004 9:18:28 AM PST by tophat9000 (We didn’t rise they sunk look at the blue, water filled, sink holes map (Mike Moore Fatass divots ?)
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To: AbercrombieChick; All

AND, if there's still any question of what constitutes surrender, just ask the experts - the French.

(Happy workers in textile factories busily sewing white flags to a background of accordian music. - Chirac's idea of industry.)


28 posted on 11/17/2004 9:21:42 AM PST by shibumi (John Galt is alive and well. He tends bar in a casino restaurant.)
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To: elbucko

Let Kevin Sites know how you feel.

kevin@kevinsites.net


29 posted on 11/17/2004 9:22:10 AM PST by Beckwith (John Kerry is now a kept man . . .)
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To: areafiftyone
Several commanders voiced concern that no matter what the inquiry determines, the incident had handed the Iraqi insurgency a huge propaganda victory...

The "incident" did not hand the "insurgency" (i.e. terrorists) anything except one more dead terrorist.

However, the videotaping and widespread public dissemination of a run-of-the-mill urban warfare incident, by a willing member of the U.S. media, provided the enemy with propaganda. It's an important distinction.

30 posted on 11/17/2004 9:23:29 AM PST by Ryan Spock
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To: areafiftyone

Yep...dont scream about these same terrorists who raped tortured murdered disembowled and dismemberd a woman then threw her corpse out into the street ahead of advancing Marines

Dont consider that a Navy Corpsman had just been killed by a terrorists pretending to be wounded and crying out for help...or that a Marine grunt had also been killed by a terrorist
pretending to surrender

Or that every one of these so called people in Fallujah are terrorists...the innocents were given ample opportunity to leave...knowing full well what was about to happen...

Also dont forget that this same Marine had been shot in the face the day before by a terrorist who was pretending to surrender and who the Marine had shown mercy...this same Marine..after having been shot in the face requested to be RETURNED TO DUTY...HE INSISTED UPON IT....HE COULD NOT BEAR TO LEAVE HIS FRIENDS...


31 posted on 11/17/2004 9:29:39 AM PST by joesnuffy ("The merit of our Constitution was, not that it promotes democracy, but checks it." Horatio Seymour)
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To: areafiftyone

The Marine felt his life was in danger. The body moved - as if for a pistol, etc. I would LOVE to defend him. If President, I would make it clear he had my blessing and move on.


33 posted on 11/17/2004 9:32:06 AM PST by MarshallDillon (<<<Clickhere to RECALL Austin Mayor WILL WYNN -(a double-taxer).)
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To: marty60

DO NOT HAMSTRING OUR MARINES. THEY ARE KILLING BAD GUYS.


34 posted on 11/17/2004 9:33:50 AM PST by discipler
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To: shibumi

LOL also be sure to inquire with the French on what to do if your enemy is running away. Or what to do if adversary is hiding beneath an Eiffel Tower. Or what to do if enemy wants to hand over weapons the minute your tank reaches their border. Etc...


35 posted on 11/17/2004 9:34:09 AM PST by AbercrombieChick (The last time Democrats wanted to secede, it was because they wanted the right to own black people.)
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To: areafiftyone

the MSM is behaving as we expect, they hate the military along with the rest of the left.

The real question is - is the administration going to fry this young man? last time I looked, Bush was just re-elected as command in chief.


36 posted on 11/17/2004 9:35:04 AM PST by oceanview
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To: areafiftyone

Send Marine regards here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1281701/posts


37 posted on 11/17/2004 9:36:38 AM PST by Dawgmeister
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To: areafiftyone
Agents from the Naval Criminal Investigative Service have taken over the inquiry, a senior Pentagon official said, and will determine whether the Marine believed he was acting in self-defense when he yelled that the Iraqi was only pretending to be dead and fired at the body.

Pardon me...but since when are Combat Marine Assault Troops supposed to act in self defense They are agressive...Gung Ho...take the fight to the enemy....Find Them...Fix Them...and Waste Them...

Self defense is for civilians facing criminals...

Not Warriors going after terrorists...

Self defense my ___

38 posted on 11/17/2004 9:36:42 AM PST by joesnuffy ("The merit of our Constitution was, not that it promotes democracy, but checks it." Horatio Seymour)
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To: areafiftyone

What's the uproar about? Are wounded dogs not out of their misery? Was he not done a favour by being dispatched to his 72 virgins early? They should have cut all their heads off and planted 'em on stakes in the town square.


39 posted on 11/17/2004 9:37:06 AM PST by Conservative Canuck (The Voice of One Crying in the Wilderness)
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To: areafiftyone
We cannot, on the basis of TV images, no matter how disturbing and disconcerting they are, arrive at a judgment about an incident," Westphal told AP

That is correct. Believe nothing seen or heard on the mainstream media. All that is of the lowest mode of truth value.

40 posted on 11/17/2004 9:37:12 AM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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