Is Israel's Security Barrier Unique?

http://netwmd.com ^ | November 16, 2004 | Ben Thein

[billorites]

Don't forget Australia's dingo fence.

[kingsurfer]

I always thought that the fence would have been a good thing for the Palestinians as surely it means that Israel is guaranteeing them a state?

I think it is a good idea for Israel as it will stop suicide bombers and means that less fighting will occur and less incursions and chances for soldiers to get hurt in aciton.

[js1138]

I believe that's the rabbit proof fence.

I wonder if the U.N. has taken a vote on the Great Wall of China. Or even the wall sections between the U.S. and Mexico.

[vikingsteve]

lol great comment!'

similarity with israel: the great wall of china was built to keep out primitive barbarian invaders

[robertpaulsen]

"... as surely it means that Israel is guaranteeing them a state?"

And what a state it is!

The Green Line (on the map below) was established at the end of the 1948 war. It was never official, but was basically where hostilities ended. The Palestinians who left, or were driven out of, their homes settled in the West Bank.

Soon after the 1967 War, Israel started building settlements in the West Bank, some of which, by now, are quite large. This is important to point out in that it explains the location of the Israeli wall -- it goes into the West Bank (ie., over the "Green Line") to surround and protect these settlements.

Some Palestinians cities, like Qalqiliya, are completely surrounded by the wall (see below). Heck of a Palestinian "state", huh?

[doc30]

I always thought that the fence would have been a good thing for the Palestinians as surely it means that Israel is guaranteeing them a state?

You don't understand the Pali's. They want a state - all the way to the Mediterranean. The fence means they don't get Israel and they don't get to build on the ruins of a Jewish State, which is their clear objective.

[kingsurfer]

You don't understand the Pali's. They want a state - all the way to the Mediterranean. The fence means they don't get Israel and they don't get to build on the ruins of a Jewish State, which is their clear objective


Yeh. Damn my infernal logic.
If they could find a moderate non halfwit they could actually get their own state. It is a pity for them that no one has the intelligence to see it. It must suck to live under a jihadi dictatorship and it can't be that good to live next door either.

[Haro_546]

The Arabs occupying Jewish land deserve no state at all.

[IAF ThunderPilot]

The wall so far reduced the number of terror attacks in Israel by 85%, and as soon as the wall will be built near Jerusalem, it will be 95%.

UN simply want to finish the work of the Nazis in the 1940s.
May the UN rest in hell together with Arafat and Hitler.

[CarrotAndStick]

The electrified fence in Kashmir, India has also been very effective in cutting down terrorist incursions there. Try coming close to it there, and it fries you worse than a potato wedge in hot oil!

Besides, they've employed ground sensors and night vision tracking systems to monitor the fence.

[tom h]

The fence is less a permanent structure and more a bargaining chip and security guarantee. By building it the Israelis finally found a way to go on the offense that didn't involve military conflict. And it had the second impact of thwarting the Pali suicide attackes. The subtlety of the approach is the slight encroachments into the West Bank. While not encompassing large land mass this really, really, ticks off the Palis and reminds them that had they done away with Arafat and accepted Oslo they would've had more than the Israelis are leaving behind the line.

So Israel has done a brilliant job of changing the agenda toward peace. Perhaps now that Arafat is burning in hell, the Palis will see the light.

[Alouette]

Heck of a Palestinian "state", huh?

If they get a "state" is should be on Uranus.

[robertpaulsen]

"If they get a "state" is should be on Uranus."

Are you insane! Certainly not all of Uranus! Not the Israeli holy sites on Uranus!

It is written, somewhere I'm sure, that 6 million years ago, the Jewish people lived on Uranus, establishing many holy sites on the planet prior to coming to Earth.

But the kind and gentle Israelis are pleased to show their generosity by letting the filthy pig-dog devils of Palestinians settle Uranus on non-religious sites. They're free to settle on the Reykan Plains of Sulphurous Hell, the Frozen Peaks of Garbor, or the Sinking Sands of Lassan.

Their choice.

[Alouette]

The Palestinians can have all of Uranus. The Israelis, however, will keep Jewpiter.

[robertpaulsen]

"had they done away with Arafat and accepted Oslo they would've had more than the Israelis are leaving behind the line."

Accepted Oslo? Who would have accepted that POS offer?

The Palestinian "state" (in orange) looks like Indonesia -- without the water.

[Alouette]

Isn't there a bulldozer somewhere you should be blocking?

[robertpaulsen]

Speaking of bulldozers, is that you driving one down there during the construction of the Israeli "chain link fence"?

[jordan8]

The Belfast peace lines exist to prevent large-scale intercommunal disorders

Well, not exactly. These peace lines primarily stopped Protestant goon squads from raiding Catholic areas. The violence ran almost exclusively one way. (Fences didn't hinder the IRA or UDA much.) They also served to turn certain Catholic areas into loose prisons where limited access roads made it easier for British authorities to surveil the populace.