Posted on 11/14/2004 12:26:55 PM PST by primeval patriot
I'll be dancing in the streets if this legislation makes matricula consular cards illegal.
On this thread, the ranting and raving about walls wasn't brought up by an anti-immigrant yahoo.
First, if you start shooting illegal aliens they will seen as victims not only of the evil nuts who would shoot them, but also as victims of tragic circumstance. Shooting illegal aliens is not only murder, it would polarize the greater debate along emotional lines and cost considerable support among reasonable people for solving the problem of illegal aliens without legalizing them. There would not be a positive compromise, the entire position against illegal aliens would be compromised, and you would get an amnesty in short order.
Second, as with all forms of lawbreaking, diligent enforcement is an effective disincentive against breaking the laws being enforced. Start there, and provide the manpower and resources that would be wasted on snipers toward humanely but decisively enforcing our laws, especially in the vast American interior.
If there was no reason to sneak into America would they stop? No hiring, no welfare, no schools , no anchor babies, etc., and it stops on its own!
Is that too simple?
That's a bit of a dodge. One poster pointed out the our borders can't be sealed, and I count about a dozen who took the bait and disagreed. Several of them advocate thousands of miles of walls and fences, and even worse nonsense.
Securing the borders, while important, does not and should not require walls, and attempts to "seal the borders" are wasteful, hyperbolic overkill.
The problem of illegal aliens is systemic, and to set priorities on the borders is to misunderstand the problem. If a patient is suffering a systemic infection and one applies a topical antibiotic, the patient will not improve. The infection must be addressed internally. So it is with illegal aliens. Some enhancement of border enforcement is fine, but most of our efforts should be directed at interior enforcement. Crack down on employers, conduct sweeps at day-laborer sites, and use the IRS to track fraudulent tax documents. Illegal aliens in the interior will become discouraged and leave. Those not yet illegal will see the exodus and become less likely to cross. The numbers of illegal aliens coming into the country would start to diminish, and the resources we do maintain at the border could be used more effectively against those that still attempt to cross.
Is it really news when most of the article is devoted to smearing the legislation, instead of reporting its content?
First of all you mis-red my sentiments I am for impeaching those representatives because they are not responding to the will of the people;sorry for the confusion!
It's a dumb and evil idea. So dumb I half suspect that you are a plant.
You are advocating the murder of illegal aliens. By doing so not only are you revealing yourself to be a truly creepy individual, you are assisting those who want to legalize illegal aliens by making the opposition to illegals appear to be a safe haven for evil lunatics.
I'm a NUT? Check it out!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1279964/posts
That's no reason to do nothing. We can at least slow it down considerably.
We have to TRY!
Your words:
Why not be a NUT! We are fighting NUTS!. So we must fight FIRE with FIRE -- Nuts with Nuts !!
If what I heard is correct, only about 5% of it actually a concrete wall. The rest is a fence.
To put a 3-man team every mile along the entire Mexican border, working 24/7 in 3 shifts, capped at 200 days total work per man would require...
Total # shifts/mile = 3*365 = 1095 shifts/mile
Total number of miles = 2000 miles
Total shifts = 2,190,000
At 3 men per shift, total men = 32,850
Given that the Federal government employs 3 million people, requiring only 32,850 to secure the Mexican border is insignificant.
The logistics of securing the border are not the issue. It's strictly a matter of political will.
Bingo! Now if we can get the cheap labor-loving, big business-loving Republicans and Democrats to agree, the invasion will stop. Clinton loved illegal immigration, Bush loves illegal immigration, and then there's the campaign debts to pay off..., so to hell with American workers and taxpayers. We're up against some big anti-American guns.
What you refer to and I agreed with the use of the Word NUT, is a Metphore for Patriotic Zealot!! As in Patrick Henery's "I know not what course other's may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death"!
Keep dreaming. When Bill O'Reilly was interviewing President Bush, the question of border security came up. O'Reilly asked him about putting the military on the border to seal it up; the President had a look as you got to be kidding. It's not like this country can't do it. Americans can do ANYTHING that we put our minds too. The question is it in the best interest of the country. If it were, I believe President Bush would have done it or committed the country to build barriers and station a border army. President Bush did mention in one of the debates that the US is using drones & satellites to monitor the border. By doing this and I assume other measures, the borders are secured. However, no amount of border security can deter a committed enemy from smuggling a nuke into this country. For example, Russia using a stealth airplane could parachute a commando unit into the US. This commando unit could do anything from surveillance to planting and detonating a nuke. Thats why we have to be on the offensive. Kill them before they kill us. Thats the main reason why I voted for President Bush.
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