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State Department Tried to Stop Airing of Bin Laden Tape
Associate Press ^ | October 29, 2004 | Barry Schweid

Posted on 10/29/2004 5:12:30 PM PDT by focusandclarity

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To: focusandclarity

Gee, I wonder why the State Department, which is fully infested with socialists, Clintonistas, and all other manner of Bush-hating, scumbag liberals, would want to stop the airing of the bin Laden tape? It's a real head-scratcher....


81 posted on 10/29/2004 8:26:26 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

the other thing OBL did today - no matter who is elected president Tuesday, the other side will cite the OBL video as the reason why. if Bush wins, the left will claim the OBL video tipped it to him, listen to walter cronkite on larry king tonight saying Rove setup this video release. if Kerry wins, our side will claim that the OBL video reminded voters that Bush has failed to get him.


82 posted on 10/29/2004 8:26:53 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Dog Gone

If you look at the RAT operatives on tv, they're all in frenzy to deny this tape helps Bush. God forbid anyone think Kerry is weak on protecting this country, although polls have him losing by double digits when this question is asked. So Kerry's surrogates are desperately trying to make Kerry, despite his record, look like George S. Patton. The phony explosives scandal has been thrown overboard since Karl Rove outsmarted them again, and their own polling data suggests bin Laden just nailed Kerry's hide to the wall. It should be pretty funny watching Kerry over the weekend. Maybe Dukakis's tank photo isn't such a loser idea after all. Hmmm.


83 posted on 10/29/2004 8:27:54 PM PDT by hershey
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To: oceanview

I agree with part A, but not necessarily with part B.


84 posted on 10/29/2004 8:30:29 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Time to let slip the dogs...)
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To: PsyOp
Al-Queda is still doing their "Weekend at Bernies" imitation.

LOL, great line!
And I agree with you 100%. Bin Laden has been a maggot-infested corpse at Tora Bora since December 2001. It astounds me that Al Jazeera's sources keep going to the archives for this crap and Al-Jazeera airs it with a straight face.

Regards,
LH

85 posted on 10/29/2004 8:33:27 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: PsyOp
Hmmm... No mention of Spain, or Iraq, or Libya or Indonesia.

One thing I just remembered - - didn't bin Laden mention Kerry?

86 posted on 10/29/2004 8:34:49 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Dog Gone

I look for most undecideds and even a few Kerry backers to vote for Bush as a result of this tape.


87 posted on 10/29/2004 8:34:59 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: Dog Gone
The State Department must not want Bush re-elected because I think this tape guarantees it.

There are certain elements at State (both sections) who want more than that, they want the Islamicists to be victorious!!

the infowarrior

88 posted on 10/29/2004 9:38:40 PM PDT by infowarrior (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Lancey Howard
mention kerry?

Don't know. All of the clips I've heardwere partials, I think. I also think I also heard that Michael Moore was quoted from his 911 propaganda movie. But, until I see a clear, unaltered video with visible, dated material in it, and his lips moving while he's talking, its just so much disinformation to me.

Ever notice how bad all these videos are? With all the cheaply available technology floating around out there, you'd think they'd be able to produce something that didn't need a team of CIA analysts and video and voice experts to verify.

I've seen cell phones that can take better quality video than the crap that keeps popping up on All-Jizeera. I think this is by design to hide bad dubbing.

89 posted on 10/29/2004 9:51:20 PM PDT by PsyOp (Any man can make a mistake; only a Democrat keeps making the same one.)
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To: Dog Gone
I'm not confident of that, though, and I think the next four days could be very dangerous. Even more so, if this was a go signal.

While everyone with a modicum of sanity is concerned with a possible terrorist strike, or strikes, to influence the election, timing would play an important role in the success, or failure of such.

When the terrorists did the bombings in Spain, they were timed in such a way as to actually influence the vote, at least two business days prior to the election. For them to try to do the same here, would mean that the best opportunity would have been Friday, and no attack came, just this rambling threat.

While we cannot rule out a strike on Monday absolutely, it would be of less impact, as there would not be sufficient time for the press, which the terrorists would rely on, to do their "spin magic" to make the results the terrorists would desire. An attack this weekend would have similar problems, but would be more likely than Monday. Tuesday would be a non-starter (for the purpose of "influencing" the election, but not necessarily for "stopping" the election, so what IS their strategy at this point, anyways?)

So, for the purpose of "influencing" the election, the best window has come and gone. Are we out of the woods, yet? No, but that means that the strategy they're using isn't to "influence" the election, but to halt it outright...

the infowarrior

90 posted on 10/29/2004 9:53:16 PM PDT by infowarrior (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Imperialist
Watch FahrenHYPE 9/11. BlkBstr has it for rent, or buy it.

The problem is that both of the Blockbusters I frequent have only one copy, while they have a full five shelves dedicated to Moore Propaganda.

In any case I baought two copies from overstock.com and sent one to my daughter in Bahgdad.

91 posted on 10/29/2004 9:58:08 PM PDT by PsyOp (Any man can make a mistake; only a Democrat keeps making the same one.)
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To: Doe Eyes
The State Department is under the Executive Branch, and the lack of control means a weak Executive Leader.

Not everyone in the State Department is a political appointee, either, and cannot just be summarily fired with a change in administrations. The greatest amount of damage to our (as in "We the people") interests, done by the State Department has been done over the course of many decades, through many administrations, by career employees of the State Department, whom are largely pro-Soviet (when it existed), and very pro-Arab as well.

These people are extremely difficult to root out, and the damage they have done has been tremendous (for example, the "fast track" visa system for Saudi nationals wasn't a brainchild of the Clinton administration, but was developed over decades by career State employees, the roots of which I saw in 1980, a full decade before Clinton was elected...)

the infowarrior

92 posted on 10/29/2004 10:00:48 PM PDT by infowarrior (TANSTAAFL)
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To: PsyOp
Ever notice how bad all these videos are?

Yep. This has always bothered me, also. There is NO valid explanation for why there has never been a clear video of bin Laden's face talking straight and close-up into the camera.

He's long dead.

93 posted on 10/29/2004 10:35:28 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: PsyOp

Yeah, same deal here at my local blkbstr, but atleast they had it, I was stunned.

I extend thanks to your daughter in Iraq for her service to our country, and to you and your family. Best wishes.


94 posted on 10/30/2004 9:32:08 AM PDT by Imperialist
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To: Imperialist
I extend thanks to your daughter in Iraq for her service to our country, and to you and your family. Best wishes.

Thanks. Just heard from her this weekend. Her unit is moving out to support the Marines at Falluja. She's spent the year telling me how bored she has been sitting around Camp Victory (which was fine by me). I fear her boredom is about to end.

I just hope that this time we don't pull our punches and turn that vipers nest into a smoking hole in the ground once and for all.

95 posted on 11/01/2004 8:57:06 AM PST by PsyOp (Any man can make a mistake; only a Democrat keeps making the same one.)
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