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Well, he sounds conflicted in his endorsement of Kerry. I guess Sullivan can't get past the how differently the war has turned out as expected.

RECAP - I think that he makes some strong points -

The absence of WMDs is just a miserable failure, pure and simple.

Not anticipating the strength of the insurgency - also a major mistake

I have a hard time getting past these two issues as well

1 posted on 10/26/2004 1:45:30 PM PDT by ARCADIA
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Mr. Sullivan is a homosexual activist and a slave to his obsession. He would endorse whichever candidate he sees as most likely to advance the homosexual agenda. All else is secondary no matter what he says.


93 posted on 10/26/2004 2:42:57 PM PDT by scory
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The lack of stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq remains one of the biggest blows to America's international credibility in a generation. The failure to anticipate an insurgency against the coalition remains one of the biggest military miscalculations since Vietnam.
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First point; Every intelligence agency in the world at the time said Iraq had WMDs. Intense stringency by 3 members of the Security Council was suspicious at the time and later shown to be motivated by economic concerns, not intelligence matters. I maintain that credibility gap was there all along and the Iraq war became a convenient talking point on which to hang the credibility gap.
Point two; 20/20 hindsight and armchair quarterbacking are not valid criticisms until the crystal ball is perfected. And, the US Military is responding to the insurgency with new tactics and armaments. It takes time to rebuild the US Military after the Clinton years.
Thats all of the article I will comment on.
94 posted on 10/26/2004 2:43:17 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (I volunteer to instruct JFK on the meaning of a purple heart!!)
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Obviously, Kerry's stand against a constitutional amendment to target gay citizens is also a critical factor for me, as a gay man.

The bottom line is buggery ...

95 posted on 10/26/2004 2:47:00 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard
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Those are not the reasons he's backing Kerry.
98 posted on 10/26/2004 3:01:52 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: ARCADIA; Jim Robinson

1. WMD's, plans, and just-in-time recipes have been found.

2. The insurgency is bogus -- it is what Bush says. Originated and funded by terrorists and frightened terrorist regimes. The proof....they waited until after the hot season to begin the insurgency. Iran, Syria, Al Qaeda, etc. all had June, July, August, September to regroup. The danger to Americans began in Oct/Nov of 2003.

There was no "plan for an insurgency." We are fighting international terrorisms REGROUPED plans in Iraq. Good for us! Fight terrorism over there instead of over here. Draw them into a killing zone. EXCELLENT STRATEGY!

Finally, count the number of incidents in a day and what the incident is.

They are LOW IN NUMBER, propaganda intensive, militarily insignificant attacks directed primarily at their own people.

They are afraid to take on American forces because every time they have we have turned them into bloody, messy puddles of DNA!

We ARE winning!

Don't count on the media to let you know this.

You will see the truth of our continuing progress once President Bush is re-elected and the terrorist's hopes go out the window.

They enemy is going to become very, very discouraged.


99 posted on 10/26/2004 3:02:40 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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Other neocon warbloggers are also backing Kerry (Oxblog, etc.). With Sullivan, gay marriage is the main reason, but with the others, it looks like a gamble that Kerry will secure what they want and Bush will put it at risk. It's akin to a Johnson Democrat backing Nixon in 1968 betting that Nixon would follow through on Vietnam better than Humphrey. Part of the gamble today is that Kerry will be a weak President domestically and feel compelled to hold the line on Iraq, yet prove competent both at home and abroad. Whether Kerry will satisfy them is hard to say, but it is quite a risk and involves plenty of assumptions that could blow up in their faces.


100 posted on 10/26/2004 3:06:16 PM PDT by x
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Do you really expect anyone to read all that s**t?


101 posted on 10/26/2004 3:12:01 PM PDT by matchwood
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He was also a Gore voter in 2000. Sullivan has a fatal flaw... total self absorption and an ability to sublimate his pet social issues to national security.


102 posted on 10/26/2004 3:13:39 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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Any reelection starts with the incumbent. Bush has had some notable achievements. He was right to cut taxes as the economy headed toward recession; he was right to push for strong federal standards for education; he was right to respond to September 11 by deposing the Taliban; he was right to alert the world to the unknown dangers, in the age of Al Qaeda, of Saddam Hussein's Iraq. He is still right that democratization is the only ultimate security in an age of Jihadist terror. And when you see women bravely exercising their right to vote in Afghanistan, you are seeing something that would not have happened without our current president. That moral achievement can never be taken away from him.

And that's why I'm voting for him. Thanks Andrew.

103 posted on 10/26/2004 3:18:21 PM PDT by ILS21R (Vote)
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Sullivan is full of it. The absence of WMD isn't a miserable failure.

There is ample proof of both manufacture and of intent to deliver. It's as plain as the nose on people's faces.

What people evidently want is large stockpiles of nuclear material. Most of that went to Syria, along with bio/chem agents that Syria deployed in Africa not two months ago.

Iraq is a front in a larger war, and Kerry's choice of campaign strategy - to politicize what is ultimately our national strategy of fighting this conflict on their soil rather than ours - has put us all in jeopardy by sapping our resolve to take the fight where it ultimately must go - Iran and Syria.

Nothing pure and simple about WMD's not being there. Iraq was a clear and present danger that had on multiple occasions publicly expressed the intent to attack America and Americans where ever they were found. On the basis of that, we could no longer afford to wait until a threat had manifested itself materially.

We struck pre-emptively.

The justification of such action is made best by your candidate Kerry on the floor of the Senate in 2002. You can look in Rush's archive for the transcript which played today.

Sullivan's points are garbage - every last one. Sullivan hates Bush because Bush opposes gay marriage. Period.

Post 9/11 Sullivan was a big Bush fan and then flipped when Bush came out for the FMA. That's it.

If you are going to peddal liberal analysis, try peddaling Christopher Hitchens instead. Man comes out and honestly says why he differs with Bush, but sees a complete absence of resolve to do what must be done in the middle east on the left.

It's a single issue election this year, my friend. The fact that you and I are still alive to have this discussion is the issue.


107 posted on 10/26/2004 3:29:57 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.)
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In other words....I'm holding my nose real real hard when I vote for Kerry, but any right thinking intelligent human being can see that Bush is evil and stupid and incompetent and Kerry is better.

Translation...of course, I always vote Democrat anyway, so this is all just BS and another excuse to point out how evil and bad GWB is...ain't I thoughtful and clever.
108 posted on 10/26/2004 3:32:28 PM PDT by ml1954 (Kerry, A Legend In His Own Mind.)
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Well, he sounds conflicted in his endorsement of Kerry. I guess Sullivan can't get past the how differently the war has turned out as expected.

RECAP - I think that he makes some strong points -

The absence of WMDs is just a miserable failure, pure and simple.

Not anticipating the strength of the insurgency - also a major mistake


I have a hard time getting past these two issues as well




Funny how you can't get pass those issues yet refuse to acknowledge that John Kerry voted FOR the war. AND in 1998 was one of the Senate prime sponsors for the 1998 Dec bombing of Iraq?
So please tell the truth. Why will you not hold Kerry accountable for supporting the war?
109 posted on 10/26/2004 3:43:32 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Vote Bush 2004-We cannot survive a 9-10 President in a 9-11 World)
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My friends think I'm well-informed; that's because I review the Free Republic everyday. I also read the New York Times, the Washington Post


There is your problem. Try branching out to more balanced intellectualy honest reading materials.

Try

http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/


Also, try Hugh Hewitt.com and read the blogs he links to.


110 posted on 10/26/2004 3:46:19 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Vote Bush 2004-We cannot survive a 9-10 President in a 9-11 World)
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Andrew, perhaps it's better if you don't vote at all.

Your willingness to bet on an unknown unproven candidate,
one with a history of duplicity, and a lackluster
performance in twenty years of public life is shocking,
although perhaps not that shocking to those of us who
have observed your party's behavior over the last 12 years.

You have accepted Kerry as you accepted Clinton, refusing
to look beneath the surface to the dark slimy underside
which makes up both of those men.

Clinton brought you shame which you won't admit, Kerry
will bring you defeat and death, which you cannot avoid.

Fortunately, it's not up to you, WE the people could not
close our eyes to the filth and smut you and your party
have rubbed in our noses all this time, and we are going
to put a stop to it NOW.

112 posted on 10/26/2004 3:51:43 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Who would have believed Andrew Sullivan and Christopher Hitchens reversing roles.


114 posted on 10/26/2004 4:25:45 PM PDT by philo
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The lack of stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq remains one of the biggest blows to America's international credibility in a generation.

This is nonsense.

The intelligence agencies of France, Germany, Russia, Isreal, Jordan and virtually EVERY nation INCLUDING those opposed to the war said the SAME THING America did about the existance tof WMDs. As did the UN.

For you to claim that this is a blow to America's credibility as if nobody else was saying so is simply dishonest.

117 posted on 10/26/2004 5:00:20 PM PDT by Jorge
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Yeah, but will he actually VOTE for him?? Don't you think he will get stomach cramps?


118 posted on 10/26/2004 5:02:01 PM PDT by Another Thought
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"The lack of stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq remains one of the biggest blows to America's international credibility in a generation".


I stopped reading right there and that sentence is absolute hogwash. International credibility?Hey Andrew why don't you do a whole expose on the U.N. Oil-For-Food Scandal??? Internatinal credibility---LMAO! (God I wish Ronald Reagan was still alive!) I have pics saved of Iraqi Fighter planes covered by monstrous piles of sand, does that mean we've found all the planes? No one considers the possibility that Saddam was 'lying, just to keep the world at bay'. He had scientists create chemical weapons to kill ( and literally test on) his own people. Those irrefutable pictures can be seen here.-----> http://www.kdp.pp.se/chemical.html

Am I to believe a Lying tyrant named Saddam Hussein didn't create any more Chemical Weapons since 1988, BECAUSE WE CAN'T FIND THEM NOW????? Anyone who believes that is a simply a ninny, a kook AND a liberal. He wanted the UN Inspectors out of his country and gave them the run-around for years.Why? Why? Why is that? All we heard about for YEARS was how he harassed the inspectors after 1992.

This G.D. Liberal Dogma makes me ill and is why I don't watch the Evening News anymore. I am confident there is a special place in hell for incessant liars.


120 posted on 10/26/2004 5:21:10 PM PDT by Pagey (Hillary has been eerily silent lately, just like when she ran the War Room in the West Wing in 98,99)
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bump


122 posted on 10/26/2004 5:24:31 PM PDT by meema
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Do any conservatives look at his blog any more? Every time I take a peek, I just see warmed-over DNC talking points and interminable rants on the gay rights movement. Not much factual accuracy or historical knowledge. A complete waste of time.


124 posted on 10/26/2004 6:36:36 PM PDT by DianeDePoitiers
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