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October suprise?
1 posted on 10/22/2004 12:38:09 PM PDT by Smogger
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To me this sounds like a dumb thing for Lehman to say. Even if true, what can Bush say? "We know where he is but don't have the troop strength to get him?" Kerry will pounce on this as supporting his contention that the war in Iraw diverted troops from capturing Osama. If Bush says it's "It's not true; we don't know where he is," then it feeds into the old "our war on terror is ineffective" argument. And if Bush goes in and gets him, it feeds into the "using the terror war to support his campaign" schtick.

Unless I'm missing something, I think Lehman should keep his lips buttoned on intelligence info. That said, I repsect him and DO hope I'm missing something here.


43 posted on 10/22/2004 12:51:49 PM PDT by Puddleglum (If O'Neill worked for Nixon, who was Kerry working for? Ho Chi Min?)
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"There is an American presence in the area, but we can't just send in troops. If we did, we could have another Vietnam, and the United States cannot afford that right now."

Just send in one of my friends:


46 posted on 10/22/2004 12:54:24 PM PDT by CurlyBill (Voter Fraud is one of the primary campaign strategies of the Democrats!)
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"We ran that information into the ground, and discovered he only receives about $1 million a year from his family's fortune.

... and his family is still wasting oxygen because...?

51 posted on 10/22/2004 12:59:41 PM PDT by glock rocks (posted from the very heart of Reagan country)
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The 9/11 Commission? Is that still playing in DC?


53 posted on 10/22/2004 12:59:52 PM PDT by caisson71
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I don't buy into the story that we don't "dare" send in SF to get him, nor does Musharraf. Perhaps the divulgence is to see if he moves and makes himself an easier target, or maybe we're just listening in on conversations in order to intercept the "mule messages," or this is why Bush wants a nuke-tipped bunker buster.

Lehman can't just shoot off at the mouth on National Security issues he heard about while on the 9-11 Commission and nobody has anything to say about it.

54 posted on 10/22/2004 1:00:04 PM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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Found him! ;)
57 posted on 10/22/2004 1:05:14 PM PDT by Sockdologer
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Candygram for Mister Mongo.


63 posted on 10/22/2004 1:14:31 PM PDT by John Jorsett (Kerry-Edwards: FORGING AHEAD)
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Lehman is full of it.

There is no more evidence that he is alive than there is that he is dead.

Common sense says, that if he were alive then where is the tape? Where is the proof?

This is more of the same stuff that has been batted around since 9/11.

There is no there, there.

Just more Lehman self aggrandizement.

66 posted on 10/22/2004 1:18:06 PM PDT by Cold Heat (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545)
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I think Bin Hiden is buried under a few hundred tons of mountain. I cannot believe a man with his ego and supposed importance would not have had a VIDEO out proving he is still alive in the past few years. All of his underlings have been heard from but not him. Dont' you think he would have tried to rub our noses in it by now? Don't you think he would be praising those responsible for the beheadings in Iraq? I would assume he would want his followers around the world to see he is alive and well!


72 posted on 10/22/2004 1:30:03 PM PDT by hophead
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A-bomb, anyone?


74 posted on 10/22/2004 1:34:20 PM PDT by admiralsn (Counter Michael Moore- buy, watch, and spread the word- FahrenHYPE 9/11- TELL YOUR FRIENDS!!!!!!!!!!)
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I get a blank page via the source link.


76 posted on 10/22/2004 1:38:20 PM PDT by GretchenM (Rationing brings out the Ugly in some people.)
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"He is not a wealthy man," Lehman said. "We ran that information into the ground, and discovered he only receives about $1 million a year from his family's fortune.

Only $1M/year. Sound wealthy to me. Probably not to JFK.

77 posted on 10/22/2004 1:38:57 PM PDT by Moleman
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All The United States has to do is follow Saddam's lawyer and they will catch Bin Laden.

Subject: Saddam’s lawyer met with Bin Laden.

Saddam’s lawyer met with Bin Laden. What was Bin Laden doing in Baghdad? It said that Bin Laden was in Baghdad in 1998 where the Saddam’s lawyer met him. What in the hell was Bin Laden in Baghdad for....a cruise up the Tigris? You couldn’t pass gas in Baghdad in 1998 without Saddam knowing about it, if Osama was there, Saddam had to have known it. Either way if Bin Laden was in Bagdad in 1998, it had to be with Saddam's approval.

Saddam would have been harboring terrorists as far back as 1998 according to his own attorney. We already KNEW from the 9/11 commission report that Saddam Hussein offered safe haven to Osama Bin Laden in 1998.

October 15, 2004
SADDAM’S ITALIAN LAWYER GIOVANNI DE STAFANO TOLD A LONDON-BASED DAILY THAT A MEETING WAS HELD BETWEEN HIMSELF AND OSAMA BIN LADEN AT THE RASHID HOTEL IN BAGHDAD IN 1998. (AL-SHARQ AL-AWSAT, LONDON, 10/15/04)
http://www.memri.org/ticker.html

Bin Laden, Al Qaeda, received assistance from Iraq.
http://www.warriorsfortruth.com/al-queda-iraq-connection.html

25. Bin Laden reportedly visited Baghdad for consultations in March 1998. Giovanni De Stefano, an international lawyer visiting Baghdad on business, had a chance encounter with Bin Laden in the lobby of the Al-Rashid Hotel, during which the two men introduced themselves and engaged in polite conversation. De Stefano did not, at the time, recognize Bin Laden’s name. Five months after the chance encounter, agents of Bin Laden and Al Qaeda attacked the American embassies in Nairobi, Kenya and Dar-es-Salaam, Tanzania.

Saddam’s lawyer, World's most controversial lawyer.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/hardtalk/3567653.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0%2C3604%2C818840%2C00.html

Osama-Saddam links:
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31597

Iraqi intelligence trained at least two of bin Laden‘s suicide pilots on Boeing jetliners the Iraqis captured during the Gulf war.
http://www.intelmessages.org/Hack/ZKZ_Osama_and_Saddam_002.html


78 posted on 10/22/2004 1:40:08 PM PDT by Sadie789
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This article is from March 6, 2003. Interesting read.

LeBoutillier Pointed to bin Laden in Baluchistan ... a Year Ago

What's taking so long?

80 posted on 10/22/2004 1:46:39 PM PDT by NavySEAL F-16 (Proud to be a Reagan Republican)
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If we know what valley he's in, NUKE IT.

So9

83 posted on 10/22/2004 1:54:07 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
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Well October is almost over .. so they better hurry up


89 posted on 10/22/2004 2:21:52 PM PDT by Mo1 (This Sept 10th attitude is no way to protect our country)
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Osama's been dead for 2-1/2 years.


97 posted on 10/22/2004 2:46:24 PM PDT by Reagan Man (.....................................................The Choice is Clear....... Re-elect BUSH-CHENEY)
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"There is an American presence in the area, but we can't just send in troops. If we did, we could have another Vietnam,...

My FOOT!

Ya find him....ya make him room temperature....ya leave. To have "another Vietnam", you have to hang around.

I'm expecting that we'll locate him, and be viewing photos of his lifeless carcass on national news about a week before the elections. :-)

Surprise! :-)
98 posted on 10/22/2004 2:47:01 PM PDT by hiredhand
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Me thinks Lehman is saying this to cause trouble. He might be on one of Kerry's short lists.


99 posted on 10/22/2004 2:47:50 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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Ten guys....just give me ten guys......

Oh, with lots of radios :D


101 posted on 10/22/2004 2:50:14 PM PDT by Terabitten (Live as a bastion of freedom and democracy in the midst of the heart of darkness.)
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