Posted on 10/19/2004 11:20:07 PM PDT by churchillbuff
and Kerry is going to run an ad saying the President out of touch, he didn't think there were going to be casualities..blah blah blah.
If he truly said this, then it reminds me of the old saying:
Better that people think you're a fool than to open your mouth and confirm it.
I don't believe for one minute that Bush said anything of the kind, but Kerry and the MSM will milk this for 2 weeks.
Another Pat with a big mouth. I wish these do gooders would just "STFU"!
And when I said "If he truly said this," the "he" I'm referring to is Robertson.
I'm giving Pat the benefit of the doubt until there's some confirmation that he truly said this to a reporter.
this has to be a misquote... I hope that somebody is working on a correction ASAP... and I wouldn't count on CNN to take the initiative
Doesn't it say it will be easier for "a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than a rich man to go to heaven"?
Rich man/of God?
Go away Pat.
sorry for long post.. "rush" transcript from CNN site..
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PAULA ZAHN NOW
Interview With Pat Robertson; Interview With Bill Maher
Aired October 19, 2004 - 20:00 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
PAULA ZAHN, CNN ANCHOR: And good evening. Welcome to PRIME TIME POLITICS. Glad to you have with us tonight.
In the world of politics, they are at opposite poles, two people whose views could not be more different. Tonight, Pat Robertson and humorist Bill Maher sound off on the campaign trail.
And politics, abortion and the Catholic Church. Have John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Mario Cuomo and others been branded as heretics?
Joining me now, my special guest, Reverend Pat Robertson, found and chairman of the Christian Broadcasting Network and the author of the new book "Courting Disaster: How the Supreme Court is Usurping the Power of Congress and the People."
Always good to see you. Welcome.
PAT ROBERTSON, AUTHOR, "COURTING DISASTER": Well, it's great to see you.
ZAHN: Thank you. I wanted to start off by repeating something you said back in January about the president.
ROBERTSON: OK.
ZAHN: When you said: "The lord has just blessed him. I mean, he could make terrible mistakes and come out of it. It doesn't make any difference what he does, good or bad. God picks him up, because he's a man of prayer and God is blessing him."
Are you suggesting that God wants George W. Bush to win?
ROBERTSON: Well, I just think -- he loves him. I mean, George Bush is a man of prayer. He talks to the lord. He tries to get his direction from the lord.
And, you know, Randall Brooks (ph), who played Annie, said about me some years ago when I was running for president, said, I would rather have a man who believes in a higher power than a man who thinks he is the higher power. And I think that George Bush really is a very Godly person. And I
(CROSSTALK)
ZAHN: Are you suggesting that John Kerry thinks he has the higher power here? ROBERTSON: John Kerry is swimming upstream on this one as far as his elders in the Catholic Church, I think. They're not too happy with him, what I gather. But I'm not one of the Catholic hierarchy, so I can't say.
But I just think that Bush is a very good man. He's a man of prayer, a man of deep faith. And, to me, that's very admirable.
ZAHN: If you're not a Republican, can you be a Christian?
ROBERTSON: Well, I was a Democrat for about 55 years, so I guess so. You know, the party left us. The Democratic Party went far to the left, I think, and left some of us stranded on the beach, so we went to the Republican Party.
ZAHN: But there are a lot of Christians out there who take umbrage at what you're saying. There is this magazine called "Sojourners" magazine.
ROBERTSON: Oh, yes.
ZAHN: Which, by its admission, is a liberal Christian magazine.
(CROSSTALK)
ROBERTSON: Semi-socialist.
ZAHN: But they're running an ad right now that rebuts your claim that God has taken a side in this election.
They say -- quote -- "We believe that claims of divine appointment for the president, uncritical affirmation of his policies, and assertions that all Christians must vote for his reelection constitute bad theology and dangerous religion."
ROBERTSON: I would never say somebody had to vote for anybody. That would be terrible. I haven't said that.
I just said, I think God's blessing him, and I think it's one of those things that, even if he stumbles and messes up -- and he's had his share of goofs and gaffes -- I just think God's blessing is on him. And you remember, I think the Chinese used to say, you know, it's the blessing of heaven on the emperor. And I think the blessing of heaven is on Bush. It's just the way it is.
ZAHN: Even you have just admitted that the president has made some gaffes.
ROBERTSON: Yes, absolutely.
ZAHN: That he's made some blunders. But, as a Christian, aren't you supposed to admit your mistakes, acknowledge them, and move on?
(CROSSTALK)
ROBERTSON: You better believe it. I admit mine all the time. ZAHN: But the president hasn't done that.
ROBERTSON: He should.
(CROSSTALK)
ZAHN: He's been posed repeatedly in debates, what mistakes have you made? He's been asked that on the campaign trail and he hasn't come up with any.
ROBERTSON: I met with him down in Nashville before the Gulf War started. And he was the most self-assured man I ever met in my life.
You remember, Mark Twain said, he looks like a contended Christian with four aces. He was just sitting there, like, I'm on top of the world, and I warned him about this war. I had deep misgivings about this war, deep misgivings. And I was trying to say, Mr. President, you better prepare the American people for casualties.
Oh, no, we're not going to have any casualties. Well, I said, it's the way it's going to be. And so, it was messy. The lord told me it was going to be, A, a disaster and, B, messy. And before that, I had deep, in my spirit, I had deep misgivings about going into Iraq.
ZAHN: You just told me...
ROBERTSON: Yes. Yes.
ZAHN: As I asked you that question that you wished the president had admitted to the American public he's made these mistakes.
ROBERTSON: Well, sure.
ZAHN: Why don't you think he has?
ROBERTSON: I don't know this politics game. You can never say you're wrong, because the opposition grabs on it. And, you see, he admitted he screwed up. And so I don't know. But...
ZAHN: But, as someone who has run for president, you know this game better than just about anybody.
ROBERTSON: Oh, yes.
(CROSSTALK)
ZAHN: When you felt that you had the lord telling you that this was going to be a very bad thing to go into Iraq and you warned the president about it, he seemed to be dismissive.
ROBERTSON: Well, I warned him about casualties.
ZAHN: Of the casualties.
Where do you think that came from? Do you think he got bad advice? Do you think he was ignoring some of the advice he had gotten? What is it?
ROBERTSON: I just think he was so sure that this man was a tyrant, he was evil and he needed to be taken out. I mean, he just felt it.
Of course, he had advisers, the so-called neocons, around him that said, Mr. President, go get him, and we will liberate these oppressed people.
ZAHN: There are a lot of neoconservatives...
ROBERTSON: Yes.
ZAHN: ... who believe that president hasn't edited a lot of the advice he has been given.
Four million evangelicals sat out the last election.
ROBERTSON: Yes.
ZAHN: Some are very alienated by the record deficit that this president has run up. They're not crazy about the idea of larger government under his presidency. And, like you, they were very concerned about this war. Will they sit out this election?
ROBERTSON: I don't think so. I think they're very passionate.
Really, basically, in the last election, they didn't quite trust his daddy. They thought that he wasn't really with him and they weren't sure what junior was going to do. This time, they're solidly in his camp.
ZAHN: How can they be if they're opposed to him on those four major issues?
ROBERTSON: Well, you know, you don't run against perfection. It's too fallible people. So it's either the lesser of the evil or the best of second -- the best -- whatever.
And I think you have to lead. I don't think Kerry has got that stuff. I don't think he's a leader. I think he's a ponderous debater, a good senator, probably.
ZAHN: A good senator, probably?
ROBERTSON: He ought to stay in the Senate.
(LAUGHTER)
ZAHN: So you like his record in the Senate?
ROBERTSON: Stay in there all he wants to. No problem.
I hate to give the reverend orders here. I need a real short answer to this.
(CROSSTALK)
ZAHN: How close is this election going to be?
ROBERTSON: I thought it was going to be a blowout, but I think it's razor thin now. But the president, in my opinion, in the next couple of weeks -- we only got two more weeks -- is going to pull ahead of Kerry and I think he will have a substantial Electoral College victory when it's all over.
ZAHN: Kerry, the admitted nice man and good senator.
(LAUGHTER)
ROBERTSON: The president as in B-U-S-H Bush.
(LAUGHTER)
ZAHN: Pat Robertson, always good to see you. Thank you for your time tonight.
ROBERTSON: Thanks, Paula.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
ZAHN (voice-over): There's much more ahead on PRIME TIME POLITICS.
Robertson is a toad. I don't care if he's a Christian, that doesn't make you immune from being an idiot AND a criminal--his business dealings are disgraceful for a "man of God". I'm not surprised he'd put out something like this, which makes him look smarter than the President. Wow, that's some "Christian" humility you got there, Pat!
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0410/19/pzn.01.html
sorry.. forgot link
That's a LIE. Bush NEVER said any such thing.
Robertson also said:
As for Bush's Democratic rival, Sen. John Kerry, Robertson said, "I don't think he's a leader. He's a ponderous debater, a good senator probably."
I have an automobile engine that runs off fresh air. Would love to sell it to any believers of whatever is in CNN news.
I figure if CNN will ad this for me I can control the world.
Didn't Robertson also excuse forced abortions in China once?
I hate Paula Zahn. I won't watch her, or give her the ratings no matter who is on.
Pat Robertson needs to study his bible regarding humility. He is out promoting a new book, and like the dims, he's looking out for himself. Too bad if all Christians are thought to be like Pat.
There is no chance that Bush told anyone there would be no casualties.
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