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A statement, (Red)Sox declare [Yea but... who's your daddy?!]
The Boston Globe ^ | October 13, 2004 | By Gordon Edes

Posted on 10/13/2004 6:49:04 AM PDT by johnny7

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To: Semper Paratus
I have a plan, Did you know I have a plan, I also have a plan.

My Plan is to destroy America and you gumpers out there will not even enough money to buy chocolate when I am through. I will also destroy our military's power to defend us against any threat. My plan will also make sure that the courts of America will be able to legislate every anti-american thought that I can think of.

I HAVE A PLAN John Kerry January 20 2005.

101 posted on 10/13/2004 3:13:19 PM PDT by rocksblues (Sorry John, we remember and will never forget your treason!)
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To: NYCVirago

No doubt he's smart guy and by all accounts a decent guy as well.

His demeanor leaving Baltimore was a tad childish "what about me?" kind of stuff. Nothing that most other players wouldn't do also, but just completely at odds with "the Oriole way".

We really thought he was in the Brooks Robinson, Jim Palmer, Cal Ripken mold, that is, a lifer here in Baltimore, guys that come up through the system, move their families here, dig roots, and end their careers here. In other words, different from the more mercenary, free agent hopping around that defines the sport now.

We were wrong, but that's our problem, not his.


102 posted on 10/14/2004 6:05:31 AM PDT by dmz
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To: dmz
No doubt he's smart guy and by all accounts a decent guy as well.

His demeanor leaving Baltimore was a tad childish "what about me?" kind of stuff. Nothing that most other players wouldn't do also, but just completely at odds with "the Oriole way". (the rest snipped for space)

Thanks for your response. The irony about Mussina, which I'm sure you're aware of, is that he came to the Yankees, in no small part, to get a WS ring, and the Yankees haven't won a WS since he joined the team four years ago!

Anyhow, Mussina sometimes isn't the Yankee way, either. Gary Sheffield is already a fan favorite in his first season because he's physically and mentally tough, and has been playing for most of the year with a shoulder that is in bad, bad shape. Yankee fans (and The Boss) like that kind of warrior mentality, as opposed to Mussina whining about his routine getting messed up. To his credit, Mike has calmed down on the whining in the second half of this year, thank goodness, but people don't forget that he can be a bit of a crybaby.

Anyhow, I think the Oriole Way ended for good, sad to say, when Angelos took over the team. He's one of the worst owners in baseball, and he's ruined the traditions of a once-proud team. The Orioles didn't win every year, but they used to contend nearly every year. Those days are gone, and it's a real shame.

103 posted on 10/14/2004 9:32:13 AM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago

I agree with your observations about MM and the O's. I didn't realize Sheffield was a fan fav. I was under the impression he had sort of a 'tude.

It was, IIRC, Edward Bennet Williams who took the name Baltimore off of everything having to do with the O's. The slide started prior to Angelos, but he certainly accelerated the process.


104 posted on 10/14/2004 9:48:43 AM PDT by dmz
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I agree with your observations about MM and the O's. I didn't realize Sheffield was a fan fav. I was under the impression he had sort of a 'tude.

Sheff did seem to have that rep before this season, although Bobby Cox, his manger for the two years prior to this, said he was a pleasure to manage. But this year, Sheff has shown himself to be an impact player/MVP of the team, and a fan favorite. Even the New York media has commented about how accessible and friendly he is with reporters.

It was, IIRC, Edward Bennet Williams who took the name Baltimore off of everything having to do with the O's. The slide started prior to Angelos, but he certainly accelerated the process.

I wasn't aware of that. And Williams was a bigtime RAT donor/shyster lawyer as well, wasn't he?

105 posted on 10/15/2004 1:56:49 AM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: johnny7

I went to bed early last night, how did the series come out?


106 posted on 10/21/2004 6:15:48 AM PDT by babble-on
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