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9-30-04 | 4mc

Posted on 09/30/2004 7:41:42 PM PDT by Mobilemitter

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To: Lijahsbubbe
"A couple of soldiers in Wisconsin told me, we need you Sen. Kerry."

Oh yeah -- that about made me want to hurl. I told my husband, they need him alright -- for target practice!

201 posted on 09/30/2004 8:52:23 PM PDT by workerbee
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To: areafiftyone

History shows its the first one that matters. This one on foriegn policy is THE one that counted , it's THE issue ! It was a bor eanyway so #2 wount be as watched. VP debates are traditionally waste of air time and matter not .


202 posted on 09/30/2004 8:53:12 PM PDT by omstrat (NJ/NYC republican)
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To: Howlin
"Bush couldn't win; all the questions were ABOUT Bush."

I figured it was a setup from the moment Lehrer started lecturing people about how they could behave, Then when he said that he was the one who set the terms of the debate of selected the questions, there was no doubt. Bush's people should have demaded a more balanced format.

203 posted on 09/30/2004 8:53:15 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Proud member of the Pajama Posse!)
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To: areafiftyone
I want to know what the surprises are that Karl Rove was talking about

Surprises? I didn't here anything about that.

Just hope it isn't California is falling into the sea or Mount St. Helens is going to bury Washington.

204 posted on 09/30/2004 8:53:27 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe ( Jammin' in my jammies)
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To: Mobilemitter
It's hard to be objective about these. I think Kerry may have seemed more competent, as long as you didn't really listen critically to what he said. If you do listen carefully and critically, you have to start questioning not only the man's honesty, but his sanity.

The worst part for Bush was around the middle of the debate when he seemed like he was just getting exasperated. I can sympathize with him - I wanted to punch that arrogant punk Kerry.

Bush did score a pretty good direct hit or two - one point where he made me laugh out loud was where he belittled Kerry's boast that he would "build a coalition and bring our allies to help us in Iraq," by saying "what are you going to say to the allies, 'come join us for a grand diversion in Iraq?'"

205 posted on 09/30/2004 8:53:49 PM PDT by ChuxsterS
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To: omstrat

*hits you with broom*

SCAT!

stop saying we are doomed man.


206 posted on 09/30/2004 8:54:26 PM PDT by modest proposal
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To: LisaMalia

Lisa,

I smell a troll!! FR member since 9/10/04 Bring on the ZOT with extreme prejudice.


207 posted on 09/30/2004 8:54:31 PM PDT by DarthVader (John Kerry is really Janet Reno dressed up as a man.)
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To: sweetliberty

Bush has been the president for 4 years, of couse the questions will be slanted towards his policies and actions.Questions were, for the most part, fair I though ..Really bummed out here..


208 posted on 09/30/2004 8:55:02 PM PDT by omstrat (NJ/NYC republican)
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To: Leonora
Probably Kerry won, but so what? He proved that he can be better debator, not that he can be better president IMO.

Yes but those that would be swayed by the debates may now vote for Kerry which is not good.

209 posted on 09/30/2004 8:55:50 PM PDT by Queen Jadis
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To: Mobilemitter

It was a draw. Bush never comes across as well speaking as Kerry. Kerry's gave us a lot of talking points to be used against him. Think about some of the things that came out of his mouth such as "I spoke wrong when I talked about the war", "yes I thought Saddam was a threat". Does anyone really want to follow a man who speaks badly when talking about the war? Statements such as that do not show leadership.


210 posted on 09/30/2004 8:56:49 PM PDT by armymarinemom (Get with the program, Troops don't need body armor against spitballs)
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To: Queen Jadis
Yes but those that would be swayed by the debates may now vote for Kerry which is not good.

I'm not convinced that anyone who votes for Kerry ever had any thought of voting for Bush. The choice is so clear.

211 posted on 09/30/2004 8:57:36 PM PDT by Rokurota
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To: Lijahsbubbe

LOL No nothing like that. I heard it on Fox and Friends this morning and I think there was a post about it today.


212 posted on 09/30/2004 8:58:00 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: modest proposal

sorry but I was totally disappointed in tonights debate .Bush let him get away with a lot of real crap . Some of Kerrys comments were begging for come backs that would have slammed him .Maybe I lost faith in the general TV watching public and it's ability to see though the BS .


213 posted on 09/30/2004 8:58:53 PM PDT by omstrat (NJ/NYC republican)
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To: edchambers
"Kerry is obviosly a better speaker but we knew that going in and talk is cheap"

I don't agree with that. The key to being a good speaker is to connect with the people you're speaking to. Kerry doesn't connect with anybody but limousine liberals ....if you can call that connecting. Both candidates realize that the only people they are likely to win in the debates are the ones who haven't been paying attention before. Which one do you think average Joe working guy is going feel most connected with. Who do you think the average mom is going to trust to protect her children?

214 posted on 09/30/2004 8:59:44 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Proud member of the Pajama Posse!)
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To: PleaseNoMore

"So please, don't say Bush blew it and add to the negativity that us young kids have to wade through."

Hey! We're all (mostly) on the same side here. It's not really "negativity" as much as our disappointment that W does not reach out and say just the right thing to put that oompa loompa in his place.

Perhaps he didn't "blow" it; it's just that we wish he could have destroyed Forbes the way we know he deserves to be destroyed. That's all.

"I may not have said everything I wanted to just right..."

You're doing great! An excellent post, and very well written. Mark your calendar for election day... and keep posting!


215 posted on 09/30/2004 9:00:03 PM PDT by zeppenwolf
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To: Rokurota
Isn't there some statistic out there that there is a certain percentage of the undecided (don't know what it is ...sorry) that choosed the candidate based on the debates?

Although I do take your point....however, anyone that would follow the above protocol would not be very educated on politics...

216 posted on 09/30/2004 9:01:20 PM PDT by Queen Jadis
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To: omstrat
Me thinks we're doomed..

Yes, you Dems are doomed. Tell you buddies over at DU we said hello.

217 posted on 09/30/2004 9:01:30 PM PDT by dougherty (I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. - Michelangelo)
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To: sweetliberty
"I had that feeling that Kerry had the questions beforehand"

I was only able to hear the last 20 minutes of the debate live, but there was a question (late in the debate) that Kerry was answering almost before Leher had completed. I said to the radio, "He knows the question before it was asked."

Thanks for the confirmation of my feelings ...for whatever that's worth.

218 posted on 09/30/2004 9:02:19 PM PDT by The Citizen Soldier ("We will always remember. We will always be proud." Ronald Reagan)
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To: dougherty

heh i joined the DU one time in order to be a troll over there, but then i took a look around the pages and thought "why bother". The DUmmies prove their own stupidity efficiently without me having to do any work.


219 posted on 09/30/2004 9:03:16 PM PDT by modest proposal
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To: HurricaneD
Next time let's have a moderator that doesn't spoon feed Frankenstein.

Even Dan Rather would have been more unbiased than Lehrer was. And we all know Rather is a Dem hack.

220 posted on 09/30/2004 9:05:20 PM PDT by dougherty (I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. - Michelangelo)
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