Prohibiting Pornography -- A Moral Imperative

Morality in Media ^ | 1984 | Paul J. McGeady

[Mockingbird For Short]

You're simply denying the clear words of the framers, 'rad'. Our government cannot respect/support the various 'establishments' [precepts/dogmas/teachings] of religions.

I can't believe my eyes. Look up "respecting." (Hint: It means "regarding," "having to do with.") ...and "establishment." (Hint: It means "officially recognized or instituted.")

[robertpaulsen]

go away

[Dec31,1999]

That said, obscenity is "freedom of speech", but not on public property.

Which brings us to the legal question: Is the Internet public or private?

[radicalamericannationalist]

Government sells rights to bandwidth, just like with airwaves, doesn't it?

[tpaine]

-- New states were required to create republican forms of government, not theocracies. If the original states wished to continue with their various state-sponsored and state-funded religions, that was permitted by the clever wording of the 1st. The compromise worked. State religions died out, and new territories like Utah were not allowed to favor or establish state religions.
Article VI made clear that our Constitution & its Amendments were the Law of the Land, -- the "Laws of any State to the Contrary, notwithstanding".

Do you understand what a "republic" is? The establishment of a state church does not per se make a system non-republican.

That remark tells me that you do not understand our American Republic.

Following the ratification of the Constitution (and the First amendment) most states had established churches. Yet no one claimed that they were unconstitutional.

Sigh. You've made, and I've refuted that point before. Read the ratification debates on the matter. The 1st was a political compromise, and it worked. 'State religions' died out.

The reason that the Mormon Church was forced to be disestablished was not on grounds that it violated the Constitution but because its moral tenants were repugnant to the population of the rest of the country. BTW, can you cite one case where the Court struck down public religion on the "Republican form of government" argument?

My 'cite' that Utah was not admitted to the union until it separated church & state proves that point.

Please note that I am not advocating the establishment of churches at the state level, just trying to educate you on a basic political definition and historical fact.

You lack the basic Constitutional knowledge to educate me, or anyone else, on this subject. Sue your law school for nonperformance.

[tacticalogic]

Government sells rights to bandwidth, just like with airwaves, doesn't it?

Not really. If the telco needs more bandwidth between two points, they just lay down some more fiber.

[tpaine]

radicalamericannationalist wrote:

--- one of the powers that states possess is the police power. This includes thew power to regulate for health, safety and morals.

Under your scheme does a tyranny of the majority get to define 'morals'?

[radicalamericannationalist]

Okay. I wasn;t sure about that because I have read stories where the government does release spectrum. So I assume those are two different concepts then?

[tpaine]

The Controlled Substances Act of 1970 was passed by both houses of Congress, and signed by the President. They answer directly to the people. The people have an opportunity every two years to change the makeup of Congress and repeal, or modify, the current drug laws.

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The National Firearms Act of 1933 was passed by both houses of Congress, and signed by the President. They answer directly to the people. The people have an opportunity every two years to change the makeup of Congress and repeal, or modify, the current unconstitutional gun laws. -- And communitarians like paulsen applaud.

[tacticalogic]

Okay. I wasn;t sure about that because I have read stories where the government does release spectrum. So I assume those are two different concepts then?

Yep. The FCC controls the EM spectrum so broadcasts stay within their alloted range and power output. They have to do this to keep stations from walking on each other's broadcasts.

[Tailgunner Joe]

My 'cite' that Utah was not admitted to the union until it separated church & state proves that point.

Wrong. You misrepresent history. The issue was polygamy, not separation. No legal ruling or even any legal scholars agree with your spurious argument.

[Tailgunner Joe]

I do believe the FCC also enforces laws against broadcasting obscenity.

[tpaine]

You're simply denying the clear words of the framers, 'rad'. Our government cannot respect/support the various 'establishments' [precepts/dogmas/teachings] of religions.

I can't believe my eyes. Look up "respecting." (Hint: It means "regarding," "having to do with.") ...and "establishment." (Hint: It means "officially recognized or instituted.")

Our government cannot respect/support/have anything to do with the various 'establishments' [offically recognized precepts/dogmas/teachings] of religions.

[tpaine]

Why don't you send him an 'Official Notice', paulsen?

[Tailgunner Joe]

does a tyranny of the majority get to define 'morals'?

No. God does.

[Tailgunner Joe]

It says congress shall make no law respecting "AN establishment of religion" meaning a national church. State churches were not prohibited. You changed the wording earlier to reflect your lies and exposed yourself as a fraud.

[tpaine]

Prove it, joe.

[tacticalogic]

I do believe the FCC also enforces laws against broadcasting obscenity.

They do. Airwaves are public domain. I imagine there are laws against skywriting obscenities, also.

[tpaine]

Take your preaching to the religion forum, joe.

[Tailgunner Joe]

You prove it! No one agrees with your lying commie version of history.