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Prohibiting Pornography -- A Moral Imperative
Morality in Media ^ | 1984 | Paul J. McGeady

Posted on 09/30/2004 1:56:48 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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To: CSM
Government regulation of personal behaviour between consenting adults is just plain wrong, regardless of the moral standards involved.

They've legalized prostitution in some other countries. Why don't you go to one of them if that's the kind of place you want to live. Conservative Americans will fight to our last breaths to stop lily-livered liberals from turning our nation into some AIDS-ridden Needle Park

321 posted on 10/01/2004 12:57:41 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: robertpaulsen

I have no qualms about removing as much power from the federal government as possible... and then some! I agree to a large extent that most decisions should be left up to the residents of the community in question, no doubt about it. And you're right.... I do hold the opinions of the Founding Fathers in high regard, especially Thomas Jefferson, who would agree with me in this particular debate.


322 posted on 10/01/2004 12:59:16 PM PDT by Levy78
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To: robertpaulsen

big bumpkin


323 posted on 10/01/2004 1:02:14 PM PDT by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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To: Levy78
I'm more of an Adams man. He was the Conservative one. My post is a legal decision, not an opinion. U.S. Courts have always recognized the Christian basis of our common law.

"From the day of the Declaration...they [the American people] were bound by the laws of God, which they all, and by the laws of The Gospel, which they nearly all, acknowledge as the rules of their conduct" - John Adams

324 posted on 10/01/2004 1:02:17 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe ("Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people." - John Adams)
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To: A.J.Armitage
From your perspective as an atheist, why should I or anyone care about what's good for society? Why is the well-being of the other products of blind evolution who happen to be the same species as me a standard to which I must conform? Why is there any standard to which I must conform?

Not sure if I read that right? I am not an atheist, so I will assume that you intended a semicolon after the word "perspective"...

Whether you believe in God or not, you should care about morality. When the guy who sees your girlfriend and thinks she would look better on his arm decides to club you over the head and drag her off for his own pleasure, I think that "morality" as I have defined it will work in your favor.

Human beings are, by nature, selfish animals. Morality tends to work against us individually, but works for us collectively.

Now I have used the term "collective" a few times but please don't assume I am a commie as well. I believe in individual rights and liberties, but I also believe that there are colors between black and white. We have a right to individual liberty that stops when it begins to infringe upon the individual liberty of another. In some sense, it also stops when it begins to infringe upon the liberty of the collective.

Pornography, while some people can read it and control the impact it has on their psyche, has been demonstrated to be a catalyst for others to lose control of their sexual desires and ultimately rape, murder, and molest.

The percentage is small, but the impact upon society as a whole is large. It is up to society to draw the line and create laws that limit the damages caused by porn, drugs, or whatever. There is a line between totalitarianism and anarchy... we should find it and draw it accordingly.
325 posted on 10/01/2004 1:04:26 PM PDT by Paloma_55
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Nice find.


326 posted on 10/01/2004 1:07:35 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
I wish I could find the quote, but someone once said something along the lines of, "If you have to define morality for someone, you're never going to win the argument".

Does this go along with the old saying "Don't get into a debate with an idiot because they will never understand what you are talking about"?

Or "Don't throw your pearls before swine"?
327 posted on 10/01/2004 1:09:12 PM PDT by Paloma_55
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To: tacticalogic; robertpaulsen
robertpaulsen wrote:

Why are you asking questions to which you already know the answers? Why are you lying about the constitutionality of the drug laws?
I think you're intentionally wasting my time. That's not nice.
Therefore, I'm done with you.

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I think you're wanting to declare victory and run away before you get your butt kicked again.
312 TL

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Say TL, have you seen the latest ploy from the "wasting my time" crowd? - They give you an 'Official Notice':

Do not contact me again. Further Contact will be considered harassment under California Penal Code § 646.9 (2001) - Stalking
328 posted on 10/01/2004 1:12:02 PM PDT by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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To: steve-b

You don't drive on roads
You don't vote
You don't buy food from a store
You don't use a telephone
You don't rely upon a doctor for medical care

Did you never read "No man is an island"???

Once you realize that you are part of society, you can either bitch and moan about the responsibility that it places upon you and your dissatisfaction with what it provides, or you can get off your freakin @ss and do something about it.

Vote.
If you don't like what the parties are doing, either join one and start working to change it, or start your own.

Otherwise, move to the desert and have a good life.


329 posted on 10/01/2004 1:12:49 PM PDT by Paloma_55
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To: Paloma_55

More like, ""Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty, and the pig likes it."


330 posted on 10/01/2004 1:15:44 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Hank Rearden
Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life

That's fine for a opposition party philosophy, but Conservatives are taking back the reigns of government from the drooling leftist animals who have been degrading, emasculating and queering our nation for decades.

We're not going to stand for lowest common denominator Democrat morons running the country any more.

We are going to take over and do things right. Government is force. It is a dangerous master, but also a useful servant. It has a rightful purpose and conservative Republicans are going to see that it serves it.

331 posted on 10/01/2004 1:18:19 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe ("Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people." - John Adams)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
They've legalized prostitution in some other countries?

Try some counties in Nevada.

332 posted on 10/01/2004 1:18:57 PM PDT by wireman
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To: radicalamericannationalist
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."

The Constitution recognizes that rights are maintained both in the people, individuals, and the states, the community.

Good grief, another 'bold' communitarian.
Where do you see that our Constitution "recognizes" a States "rights"? The Tenth only recognizes a States powers.

333 posted on 10/01/2004 1:21:51 PM PDT by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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To: wireman

Do you support the nation-wide legalization of prostitution?


334 posted on 10/01/2004 1:21:55 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe ("Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people." - John Adams)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Joe, your overly personal flames are best confined to the backroom..


335 posted on 10/01/2004 1:25:46 PM PDT by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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To: tpaine

I haven't experienced that. So far it's just been declarations of personal opinion as self-evident truth coupled with dogmatic denial of evidence to the contrary.


336 posted on 10/01/2004 1:28:39 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I simply stated that prostitution is already legal in some areas of Nevada.

I made no attempt to inject or discuss my personal feelings on the matter.

337 posted on 10/01/2004 1:30:28 PM PDT by wireman
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Tailgunner Joe wrote:

Do you support the nation-wide legalization of prostitution?

Our Constitution contains no nation wide prohibition on prostitution, joe.

You should try reading it sometime.

338 posted on 10/01/2004 1:35:58 PM PDT by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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To: robertpaulsen

"Well, then I say to you drugs are illegal at the federal level -- that's the way we want it, in a free republic."

So you are totally fine with Abortion being legal? I mean, that is clearly the way we want it in a free republic and it is clearly consitutional because a couple of robe wearers said it is so!


339 posted on 10/01/2004 1:37:43 PM PDT by CSM ("Don't be economic girlie men!" - Governator, August 31, 2004, RNC)
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To: robertpaulsen

"I know of no current crusade going on in the United States, burning, torturing, fining and imprisoning "people like you" in an effort to convert them to Christanity. If there is, I'll go on record as opposing it.

Feel better now? Can I have back my freedom to exercise my religion?"

Your support of legislating morality control of others proves that you would not oppose it, in fact your support of the posted subject shows your support for fining and improsing poeple who have different morals than you do.


340 posted on 10/01/2004 1:44:45 PM PDT by CSM ("Don't be economic girlie men!" - Governator, August 31, 2004, RNC)
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