Posted on 09/30/2004 1:56:48 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
As God has defined obscenity, my transgressions are first between Him and I, and I prefer they remain that way. He gave me free-will so that I can demonstrate my love to Him through obedience.
That said, I do believe that any well-intentioned effort to legislatively prohibit or define pornography will fail for the same reason that well-intentioned efforts at gun-control have failed. Simply put, trying to bring an environmental solution to a behavioral problem is rarely, if ever, successful.
Unless God Himself changes the environment.
The ten commandments are a harmless symbol of Xtian principles, I don't disagree. The problem is not the ten commandments or even religion per se... it's what people like you do with them.
Here is what I mean by "protection from your religion"... I'll let TJ... spell it out for you.
"Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity."
-Thomas Jefferson
"When did the Supreme Court enumerate and transfer State powers to the Federal government?"
They didn't. They're not allowed to do that.
But, back in 1789, the framers of the constitution transferred limited powers from the states to the federal government. And one of those powers was to regulate "commerce among the several states". But hey, I'm not telling you anything you don't know.
Why are you asking questions to which you already know the answers? Why are you lying about the constitutionality of the drug laws?
I think you're intentionally wasting my time. That's not nice. Therefore, I'm done with you.
"I don't expect you to support it financially. Placing a Nativity scene in front of City Hall or in the town square requires no money from you."
Who do you think pays for the upkeep of those grounds and the contruction of the buildings? You and I do. The next thing you know, we'll have Islamic themed decorations all over the place. Put your nativity scene in your yard and let Habib keep his junk in his.
"Uh-huh. When was the last time Congress used their constitutional power to tell the federal courts to butt out of anything, much less a CHRISTian issue like the phrase "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance? "
The phrase "under god" is a relatively new addition (Being added in 1954) to the pledge of the allegiance. You're on the fringe as most people do not want Xtian symbolism or that of another religion in the public forum.
I'll leave you with another Jeffeson quote... considering, as you said, he probably knew a thing or two about what they meant.
"Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law."
-Thomas Jefferson
Like what, honoring them? And that presents a problem to you?
Seems to me that "people like me" not honoring them would present a real problem to you -- especially the "Thou shalt not kill" one.
I know of no current crusade going on in the United States, burning, torturing, fining and imprisoning "people like you" in an effort to convert them to Christanity. If there is, I'll go on record as opposing it.
Feel better now? Can I have back my freedom to exercise my religion?
Of course you may..... but keep it out of THE PUBLIC's courthouse, otherwise I'll laugh at you when Habib puts quotes from his Qu'ran in larger type size than your commandments. Sorry, in the public arena, YOU, Mr. Paulen, are not better than Habib (considering he is a citizen). I guess you're arguing his right to display Islamic themes all over gov. property as well?
That is perfect! I'll have to remember that one!
And the available evidence is that their understanding of, and the nature of the power "to regulate commerce among the several states" they transferred to the federal government is not consistent with what Congress and the USSC now claim that power is. But I'm not telling you anything you don't know.
No. He once again exposed you as a liar and fraud who constantly distorts the Constitution in order to mislead people as to what it says.
I think you're intentionally wasting my time. That's not nice. Therefore, I'm done with you.
I think you're wanting to declare victory and run away before you get your butt kicked again.
With or without the Nativity scene.
"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. . . . Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
-- John Adams
If you want to whore yourself out to white slavers, go to the Netherlands and introduce yourself to some Arabs, punk.
It's straight patriotic Christians who will free the world from Islamic terror, not faggot punks like you.
I never said I was. You, on the other hand, appear to be claiming to be better than both of us in that you don't want any religious symbol in the public courthouse.
It should be left up to the residents of the community -- it's their public courthouse, their City Hall, their town square. They may decide they don't want any. They may decide they want all. Or some.
That is the way the Constitution and the Rill Of Rights were originally written. And I know you're real big on the thoughts and opinions of the Founding Fathers.
Bzzzt. You have used an incorrect adjective in your reply.
If you want to be taken seriously, just say "an."
"Christianity, general Christianity, is and always has been a part of the common law...not Christianity founded on any particular religious tenets; not Christianity with an established church, but Christianity with liberty of conscience to all men... ." Updegraph v The Commonwealth, 1824
Go to Monticello and tell that to Jefferson, considering it's his quote that I used.... I am sure he's dying to meet you.
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