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Florida Failed to Defend the Life of Terri Schiavo
Zenit News Agency ^ | September 24, 2004

Posted on 09/24/2004 4:00:36 PM PDT by NYer

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To: festus
Its about a mans right to kill his wife, slowly and painfully.

Man "finds" Wife unconscious.

Man keeps Wife unconscious.

Man gets malpractice money for Wife.

Man wants Wife's money.

Man wants Wife dead so Man can have money.

Man gets Lawyer.

Lawyer is/was Hospice Board Member.

Lawyer promises Man that Wife will die at the Hospice...

21 posted on 09/24/2004 5:19:47 PM PDT by NYer (When you have done something good, remember the words "without Me you can do nothing." (John 15:5).)
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To: festus; floriduh voter
Its about a mans right to kill his wife, slowly and painfully.

Man "finds" Wife unconscious.

Man keeps Wife unconscious.

Man gets malpractice money for Wife.

Man wants Wife's money.

Man wants Wife dead so Man can have money.

Man gets Lawyer.

Lawyer is/was Hospice Board Member.

Lawyer promises Man that Wife will die at the Hospice...

22 posted on 09/24/2004 5:23:55 PM PDT by NYer (When you have done something good, remember the words "without Me you can do nothing." (John 15:5).)
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To: NYer

bttt


24 posted on 09/24/2004 5:58:48 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org NATIONAL & FLORIDA ISSUES)
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To: NYer; floriduh voter; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; ..

FLORIDA LEGISLATORS CAN STILL ACT TO SAVE TERRI SCHINDLER-SCHIAVO

Today’s Florida Supreme Court decision striking down “Terri’s Law” under which Governor Jeb Bush had ordered that she not be starved and dehydrated to death is not necessarily the last word. Although the court struck the protective law down because it overruled the judiciary in one particular case, the way is still open to pass a law that would be generally applicable to people with disabilities, including Terri Schindler-Schiavo.

Currently, the state requires that someone present Florida courts with “clear and convincing evidence” showing that the patient wanted to be denied food and fluids. In the Schiavo case, Terri went six days without food and fluids because the judge ruled that an alleged casual comment fulfilled the clear and convincing evidence standard. A bill introduced earlier this year, the Florida Starvation and Dehydration of Persons with Disabilities Act, would mandate that a decision to put someone to death by starvation or dehydration could only occur if the patient had made the statement under express and informed consent. It is carefully written to be “constitutional” under prior decisions of the Florida Supreme Court.

Concerned Florida citizens are urged to click on http://www.capwiz.com/nrlc/officials/state/?state=FL&lvl=L to contact Florida representatives and senators to urge them to commit to support, in a special session if necessary, enactment of the Florida Starvation and Dehydration of Persons with Disabilities Prevention Act, similar to last year’s S.B. 692, to save Terri Schindler-Schiavo and others like her.

IF YOU ARE NOT A FLORIDA RESIDENT, you may wish to contact:

Senate President James King, Jr.
9485 Regency Square Blvd., Suite 108
Jacksonville, FL 32225-8145
Email: king.james.web@leg.state.fl.us
(904) 727-3600
Fax: (904) 727-3603

This statement may be attributed to Burke J. Balch, J.D., Director of National Right to Life Committee’s Robert Powell Center for Medical Ethics.

See Questions and Answers on Florida Starvation and Dehydration of Persons with Disabilities Act

See text of Florida Starvation and Dehydration of Persons with Disabilities Act

See Wesley Smith column on why informed consent to denial of nutrition and hydration should be required: The Consequences of Casual Conversations

Florida Supreme Court opinion striking down "Terri's Law"


25 posted on 09/24/2004 6:03:09 PM PDT by amdgmary
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To: amdgmary; All; pc93; Ohioan from Florida; cyn; Republic; Chocolate Rose; TaxRelief; JulieRNR21; ...

LARS LARSON ON 1040 RADIO IN TAMPA BAY is talking about Terri's case RIGHT NOW..... TUNE IN. If you get Lars Larson, he's really in Terri's corner.


26 posted on 09/24/2004 6:10:15 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org NATIONAL & FLORIDA ISSUES)
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To: festus

Remember that two judges sworn by the governor to be judicial conservatives sided with the liberal majority to produce a unanimous agreement. Apparently, Jeb Bush was misinformed about his judicial selections, the way his father was misinformed by John Sununu and Warren Rudman about David Souter.


27 posted on 09/24/2004 7:05:20 PM PDT by Theodore R. (N)
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To: tenthirteen

I think the parents made a big mistake in not trying to get her divorced

I think Mr. and Mrs. Schindler tried to get a divorce for Terri, but the corrupt FL judiciary blocked them at ever turn. They have never received justice in FL. I am pretty sure that they will leave that corrupt state after Terri dies. Surely they must forever regret moving to the "Land of Sunshine."


28 posted on 09/24/2004 7:07:18 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.
I'll post this thought to every Terri thread I read because it's important ...

If Terri had ever made mention that she would not want to be kept alive by artificial means, her frame of reference would have been Karen Ann Quinlan, kept alive on a respirator.Feeding tubes were not considered artificial means at that particular time; therefore, she could not possibly consent to something that wasn't in existence.

29 posted on 09/24/2004 7:44:24 PM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: Pegita

No matter what wonderful prayers and sound arguments you voice, Pegita, it makes no difference. "The die is cast," as old Julius Caesar said in ancient times. And I seriously wonder if old Julius Caeasar would order Terri starved and dehydrated. Perhaps he would have too along with the other would-be "Caesars" of FL politics.


30 posted on 09/24/2004 7:48:34 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.

Do not lose heart, dear FRiend ... our God is an awesome God.


31 posted on 09/24/2004 8:01:39 PM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: Pegita

Of course, Pegita, our God is an awesome God. He will not "allow" Terri to be murdered. However, ungodly men will disregard the law of God and allow, even entertain, this murder. God is slow to act, it seems to us, but he will act, just not in time to save Terri.


32 posted on 09/24/2004 8:03:35 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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Bump post #25


33 posted on 09/24/2004 8:53:09 PM PDT by Chocolate Rose
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To: NYer
They casually deny life to the innocent and strain to keep alive convicted murders.

They seek to remove the true God from His throne so they can ascend to it and rule in His place.

They should no longer be called a Supreme Court Justice but Supreme Court Deity.

Such is the nature of our courts today.

34 posted on 09/24/2004 10:23:01 PM PDT by mississippi red-neck
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To: NYer
The Solomonic thing to do, IMHO, would be to offer the following proposal: the feeding tube is removed, and the parents forbidden from reinsering it, but Terri would be left with her parents who would be allowed and encouraged to attempt (with whatever professional assistance they selected) to give her oral food and hydration.

I do not think Michael would accept such a proposal, but it would be interesting for him to articulate reasons for refusing it. If Terri is as totally incapacitated as he claims her to be, oral feeding and hydration would not extend her life appreciably. And if he's correct in his belief that she's brain-dead, she shouldn't mind one way or the other who provides care in her last days.

I wonder what specific objections Michael would offer to such a proposal?

35 posted on 09/25/2004 12:14:31 AM PDT by supercat (If Kerry becomes President, nothing bad will happen for which he won't have an excuse.)
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To: supercat

I do not think Michael would accept such a proposal, but it would be interesting for him to articulate reasons for refusing it.

This has already been proposed and rejected by Michael R. Schiavo. He wants "the bitch" dead; what is it about this that people cannot "understand"?


36 posted on 09/25/2004 3:22:45 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: mississippi red-neck

Yet, so many Americans depend on these liberal judges (some of whom have conservative views if such views do not conflict with raw judicial power) to "take care" of "their needs" and "their rights." People really are blind. They are not "funny," in this case, as the great Art Linkletter used to say.


37 posted on 09/25/2004 3:24:13 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: NYer

Bump!


38 posted on 09/25/2004 3:24:49 AM PDT by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: mississippi red-neck

They casually deny life to the innocent and strain to keep alive convicted murders.

Imagine what Shakespeare could have written about the Schiavo case. And the national media just ignore these horrors. Maybe if Terri were "a minority" person she would get the attention she deserves.


39 posted on 09/25/2004 3:29:52 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: All

Supreme ignorance

By David N. Bass, World Net Daily

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40619

September 25, 2004

The so-called "right-to-die" movement was handed another victory this week when the Florida Supreme Court struck down a law designed to prevent the starvation death of Terri Schiavo, a brain-damaged woman who has been the latest target in the left's crusade against the elderly and disabled.

The ruling by the Florida high court is the most recent episode in a six-year legal struggle by Terri's estranged husband, Michael Schiavo, to end her life. Mr. Schiavo contends that Terri is in a "persistent vegetative state" and therefore should be condemned to a starvation death by having her feeding tube removed, even though her condition does not meet the medical or statutory definition of "persistent vegetative state." To the contrary, she responds to communication, recognizes her family, receives no life support or respiration and is considered physically stable.


But apparently, the seven justices of the Florida Supreme Court couldn't care less. On Thursday, the court unanimously declared "Terri's Law" unconstitutional, claiming it violates the separation of powers and encroaches on the authority of the judiciary.

Passed by the Florida Legislature in October of 2003, "Terri's Law" granted Gov. Jeb Bush the authority to counter a court order by Judge George Greer to remove Terri's feeding tube. Clearly, the measure was designed to both protect Terri Schiavo's life and provide a "check" on a court run amuck – both actions supported and even required by the Constitution.

But not according to Chief Justice Barbara J. Pariente, who displayed an alarming ignorance of both history and constitutional law in the Court's written opinion. In it she writes, "The continuing vitality of our system of separation of powers precludes the other two branches from nullifying the judicial branch's final orders." Doing so would lead to the judiciary's subordination "to the final directive of the other branches."

The judiciary has hung its hat on bizarre reasoning before, but this ruling really takes the cake. In the view of Chief Justice Pariente, the judiciary should be considered "untouchable" by the other two branches of government. The courts can nullify or rewrite the laws passed by the legislative branch to suit a certain agenda, and it's perfectly fine. But if the Florida Legislature takes action to halt a court ruling decreeing the starvation death of an entirely innocent woman, that's a flagrant violation of the separation of powers.

So much for consistency in the courts.

Unfortunately, Pariente doesn't stop there. She goes on to warn that if the judiciary is subordinated to the other branches, the rights of every American citizen will also be subordinated, "including the well-established privacy right to self determination."

Apparently, elected members of the Legislature are all boogeymen out to strip away our rights, but un-elected judges and justices have nothing but benevolence in their hearts for freedom and the American way. I think Terri Schiavo and the Schindler family would disagree.

The chief justice continues by saying that if restraints are placed on the judiciary, "the essential core of what the Founding Fathers sought to change from their experience with English rule would be lost, especially their belief that our courts exist precisely to preserve the rights of individuals, even when doing so is contrary to popular will."

Such statements are fine and dandy as long as you're ignoring both history and facts. Chief Justice Pariente would have us believe that the Founding Fathers possessed a deep abiding trust in the judicial system, but that's simply not the case. The Framers specifically designed the judiciary to be the weakest of the three branches of government, not the strongest. The only reason the judiciary carries so much clout today is due to recent actions by activist judges to reshape our courts into something they were never meant to be.

Instead of praising the Florida Supreme Court's ruling, the Founding Fathers would be horrified by what is transpiring today. Not only because it virtually spits on the sacred American institution of checks and balances, but also because it shows absolutely no regard for the life of an innocent woman. Pariente continually references individual rights in the court's opinion, but she apparently has little concern for the individual rights of Terri Schiavo. She is more concerned with idealism than with the sacred life of a fellow human being. Perhaps that is the most troubling aspect of the court's ruling.

The Florida Supreme Court has made its decision, but the battle to preserve Terri's life is far from over. The so-called "right-to-die" crowd is fighting furiously to set a precedent in this case, a precedent that will be the basis for outright legalization of euthanasia on demand. It's up to life-honoring Americans who have already seen abortion's devastating effect on our culture to ensure that this week's ruling by the Florida Supreme Court does not lead us into another American holocaust, a holocaust of euthanasia.

David N. Bass is an 18-year-old homeschool graduate who writes for World Newspaper Publishing and is a regular columnist at AmericanDaily.com, ARationalAdvocate.com and RenewAmerica.us. He is also a contributing writer to many other online sites, including Tolkien-Movies.com. Bass is currently working on his first novel.




40 posted on 09/25/2004 4:27:34 AM PDT by amdgmary
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