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Boy, 11, Charged With Rape of Woman, 76
AP ^ | 9/22/04 | ULIET WILLIAMS, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 09/22/2004 3:52:13 PM PDT by paltz

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To: tiamat

Were these boys Prison Guards? Where is the NYT and CBS on this story? Where is Jesse?


41 posted on 09/22/2004 4:38:24 PM PDT by DocJ69
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To: paltz

I understand that..

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What *I* am saying is that this little puke had tried before, and he succedded. ,,The neighbors should have known,, Somebody knew this little b@stard was messing with the lady.


42 posted on 09/22/2004 4:42:08 PM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno-World!")
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To: Ex-Dem
Well, to be fair, she's his adoptive mother. The kid was quite possibly screwed up long before he was adopted. One of the network stations around here airs segments every week showcasing some kid in need of adoption, and more often than not, they're inner city kids taken out of their homes because of abuse, neglect, drug use on the part of their parents, etc. Not that that excuses the adoptive mother's failing to keep tabs on the kid, but still...

Two friends of mine, a married couple, adopted a 10-year-old, one of the "inner-city kids taken out of their homes because of abuse, neglect," etc. At about age 17, the girl tried to kill my friend, her adoptive mother. Since then, the girl (now age 23) has spawned one illegitimate kid and recently aborted a second one.

43 posted on 09/22/2004 4:46:38 PM PDT by Siamese Princess
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To: cyborg
Is yer grandma as mean as you are?????

LOL!!

44 posted on 09/22/2004 4:48:01 PM PDT by Eaker ("He's the kind of guy who would fight a rattlesnake and give the snake a two-bite head start.")
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To: tiamat

Well yes, you are right about that...no doubt. Unfortunately, the idea of "community" and neighbors looking after one another doesn't exist in some neighborhoods. Many will ignore someone bing beaten by somebody else next door for fear that it is "none of their business", and when it is too late, people will say things like.."I don't understand why that happened?!?"


45 posted on 09/22/2004 4:49:36 PM PDT by paltz
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To: Eaker

She's worse 100X :-)


46 posted on 09/22/2004 4:52:14 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: rolling_stone

Yep -- and count me among them. Note that one of these boys was adopted. People really need to think twice about glorifying adoption as an answer to the problem of unwanted children. An awful lot of these children are genetically predisposed to antisocial behavior -- just like their biological parents, who couldn't be bothered to care for them (and also got damaged in utero by their drinking drugging junk-food-eating mothers). In addition, those who are not adopted as newborns have usually undergone some serious psychological trauma, the effects of which are often permanent.

This adoptive mother may well have raised this boy decently, but often that's just not enough. I just keep reading story after story of adopted boys murdering, maiming, or raping -- often with their adoptive parents or siblings as the victims. And the others, who apparently were not adopted, were probably more or less dumped by their parents and left to raise themselves. We need to face the reality that NOBODY wants these kids, and often with good reason.

I personally have no problem with abortion, but think we should be doing a lot more to prevent conceptions among the obviously-unfit-to-be-parents segment of the population. Frankly a lot of them don't get abortions, not because they think it's wrong, or because they want the child, but because they're too busy partying to get around to going to the abortion clinic (remember the prom girl who dumped her newborn in the trash and went back to dancing? and her parents, who claimed they had no idea that their slender-built daughter was 9 months pregnant?). That segment would include chronically unsupervised adolescents and teens, as well as adults who are on welfare or have lengthy rap sheets and substance abuse problems (which almost certainly descibes the biological parents of all the boys in this story). IUDs and Norplants ought to be passed out like Kleenex in inner city middle and high schools, as well as at welfare agencies, substance abuse treatment centers, and prisons. Sterilizations should be free and no-questions-asked for anyone over 18 who requests them.


47 posted on 09/22/2004 4:53:52 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker (Donate to the Swift Vets -- www.swiftvets.com)
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To: rolling_stone

One of the reasons for being pro-choice?

No, this is one more example of the end results of the destruction of the family thanks to leftist ideals. The wish to be irresponsible and the entitlement mentality are part of the root causes of this sort of violence as well as abortion.


48 posted on 09/22/2004 4:54:06 PM PDT by kenth (Even John Kerry's recreation depends on which way the wind is blowing...)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

How are you going to discern who makes a good parent and who isn't?


49 posted on 09/22/2004 4:57:37 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: paltz

This is so sick that no amount of discussion will ever "make it better."


50 posted on 09/22/2004 4:59:12 PM PDT by Monkey Face (If your legs bent the other way, what would a chair look like? (Gallagher))
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To: MOgirl
This child knew (according the article) to put on a condom, but did not know that rape is wrong?

I'm sure he knew perfectly well that rape is wrong, but he doesn't care a bit. I'm sure he also knows that breaking into houses and stealing things is wrong, but he does it anyway. Thankfully, these messed up kids have been successfully taught to use condoms, to prevent the spread of disease and unwanted pregnancy -- probably the selling point has been to keep THEMSELVES from getting sick, but whatever works. Just because it doesn't make sense for schools to be teaching YOUR children to use condoms, doesn't mean it doesn't make sense for schools full of children like these to be teaching it.

51 posted on 09/22/2004 5:02:26 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker (Donate to the Swift Vets -- www.swiftvets.com)
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To: flashbunny

Ditto on that, flashbunny. I grew up in that cesspool, and I absolutely won't go any farther than the suburbs, and only because I still have relatives there. (Thankfully, my parents moved us up north in the '70's, and I sure appreciate them for it. Don't know how anyone can still stand to live there.


52 posted on 09/22/2004 5:06:24 PM PDT by lilmsdangrus
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To: Xenalyte

The attempt isn't bad enough? You have the same actions and intent. Just because he's incompetent, or the vicitm resisted competently, he should be given deferential treatment?


53 posted on 09/22/2004 5:07:39 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: cyborg
Well our Thansgiving plans have change!!!

Scary!!!

LOL!!

54 posted on 09/22/2004 5:08:41 PM PDT by Eaker ("He's the kind of guy who would fight a rattlesnake and give the snake a two-bite head start.")
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To: Teacher317
My post said nothing of the sort. Stop trying to put words in my mouth.

If I rob a place, I expect to be charged with burglary. If I break in with intent to steal, I expect to be charged with attempted burglary.

There's a difference, and there's a reason that difference exists.
55 posted on 09/22/2004 5:12:23 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: cyborg

Sexually aggressive adolescents and teens whose parents don't respond to mail and phone messages that "We're going to give your daughter an IUD if we don't hear from you within 48 hours" would be a safe place to start. Unemployed, substance-abusing adults would be another safe group -- no force; just no food stamps, public housing, welfare checks, drug treatment, or free medical care without at least temporary sterilization. If they can't support themselves, it's a safe bet they won't be good parents anytime soon. I'm sick and tired of subsidizing these people while they breed like rabbits and dump their kids on the streets.


56 posted on 09/22/2004 5:13:20 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker (Donate to the Swift Vets -- www.swiftvets.com)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
...IUDs and Norplants ought to be passed out like Kleenex in inner city middle and high schools, as well as at welfare agencies, substance abuse treatment centers, and prisons. Sterilizations should be free and no-questions-asked for anyone over 18 who requests them.

Imagine the surprise when I read your post and saw that it was signed by "Government Shrinker."

57 posted on 09/22/2004 5:13:54 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (The Final Score: Buckhead 1, Talking Head 0)
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To: paltz

**"I'm very hurt because my son was raised as a good boy," she said outside court**

Ha, this is pretty standard nowadays for the parents of these little thugs running around.

It's always some elses fault.

This "mother" probably deserves prison too.


58 posted on 09/22/2004 5:14:06 PM PDT by Guillermo (OJ is innocent because Mark Fuhrman said the "N" word.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
adults who are on welfare or have lengthy rap sheets and substance abuse problems (which almost certainly descibes the biological parents of all the boys in this story).

There's no way you could possibly know that based on this article. I would hold my tongue before making such assertions.

59 posted on 09/22/2004 5:15:40 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (The Final Score: Buckhead 1, Talking Head 0)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Never in a million years would that happen. There was a lady who paid women to get their tubes tied, and what an uproar that was and this was with HER OWN MONEY.


60 posted on 09/22/2004 5:16:19 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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