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1 posted on 09/20/2004 9:21:31 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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terrorists = insurgents
bicyclists with baseball bats at the RNC convention = protestors
Dan Blather = journalist (BWAhahaha)

FReepers = radicals


80 posted on 09/20/2004 9:52:24 PM PDT by lonevoice (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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Cool, more people will soon become exposed to the truth.


81 posted on 09/20/2004 9:52:53 PM PDT by starvingstudent (ask your favorite leftist: "If there is another civil war, who do you think will win?")
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Right ARM !!

Farm out !!
84 posted on 09/20/2004 9:53:12 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko ("Daddy, are there bad men on your planes?")
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Keith Olberman may be the stupidest man in the media.


85 posted on 09/20/2004 9:53:25 PM PDT by ScottFromSpokane (Re-elect President Bush: http://spokanegop.org/bush.html)
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Hasn't anyone heard of a "Free Radical?"


91 posted on 09/20/2004 9:55:31 PM PDT by LOC1
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Olberman on MSNBC had Barbara O'brien who wrote Blogging America on with no reference to her political background as if she was a blog expert. She expressed concern that Blogs were becoming opinion leaders. Said she had received various nastyisms for questioning Buckhead opinion regards forgery et al. Free Republic was a "radical site"

Decided to look at her site out of curiosity. Italics are quotes from her blog.

"What a strange experience. I didn't actuallly (sic) meet Keith Olbermann, because I was in a little studio in Midtown Manhattan and the main MSNBC studio is in New Jersey. And I didn't get to say any of what I had hoped to say. Olbermann was going on about how blogs are possibly being used by political parties to put out rumors and spin, and I couldn't think of much to say except "yeah, could be." But I was able to sit in the chair and get words out of my mouth. Also I got picked up by a limo (whoo-hoo!) and got a little gift bag with a coffee cup and coffee and some chocolate-covered macadamia nuts.

More Blog..

"This whole sorry episode began on the evening of September 8, when a lawyer named Harry MacDougald, posting anonymously as "Buckhead," wrote on Free Republic that the memos were forgeries created by computer word processing or possibly by typesetting equipment but not on typewriters available in 1972. By the following morning this assertion had been picked up by a number of right-wing blogs. It hit Drudge mid-afternoon, was on Fox News by early evening, and was all over mass media in time for the 10 o'clock news "

"In other words, the unsupported opinion of one anonymous man traveled from a radically extremist web site to all of mass media and became cemented as conventional wisdom in less than 24 hours. Note that most of the same people who ridiculed Dan Rather because he wasn't more careful about the memos accepted "Buckhead's" claims at face value. We may yet learn that the memos were forged, but this cannot be determined with certainty without the originals. "

"People all over the web who hitherto didn't know a ligature from a serif are suddenly "experts" who hang great significance on the exact placement of a superscript or the fact that words on the PDF file can be made to align with the same words created with word processing. Although when I tried it, it turned out like this: "

"The above doesn't prove anything. Clearly, the red letters (word processing) are a tiny bit larger than the black letters (from the CBS scans). But without the originals, we don't know if the scans are true to size (I suspect they are not), which is why all the animated GIFs that have been created to show perfect alignment don't prove anything, either. On the other hand, because of the extreme degradation of the characters themselves I suspect there's enough distortion in the CBS scans that they may no longer align perfectly with their own originals. If the originals still exist and someday come to light, expect someone to claim they aren't the real originals because they don't line up perfectly with the scans. "

"And, once again, typewriters did exist in 1972 that could have typed the originals*******. They were the more expensive models, but they did exist. That being said, there are enough questions about the provenance of the memos that I agree they should be questioned and investigated. If the originals turn up and it turns out they were forged, I promise to announce this on The Mahablog in 52 point Helvetica. "

********* Barbara is no doubt suggesting the Selectric Composer which is really not a typewriter, it only looked like one. It was -rather- a printing shop machine. It was an: expensive ($4,000 in 1070's), nasty. complex, ill tempered, error prone machine, with a user manual that might as well have been written by the idiots that write VCR manuals. One posting tells how his dad owned a print shop and got so disgusted with the Composer that he ordered the poster (his son) to carry it out to the street and put it in the garbage!

Yea right Barbara. You're obviously a real typewriter expert!

Interesting that you call Free Republic a radical site. Your blogs are so mainstream and even handed.


Some samples below:

"These five essays were written and published in December, 2003, for Open Source Politics. In these essays I attempted to get to the bottom of the reason for George W. Bush's alleged popularity and what must be done to save America from itself."

"Bush "Pioneer" Caused the Blackout!!!!! (person donating more than $100k)"

"As our soldiers suffer in Iraq with inadequate water, food, sanitation, and shelter, President George W. "Bring 'em On" Bush treated his top fundraisers to a private barbeque (sic) near his ranch. "

Nice of Olberman and MSNBC to have such an unbiased person on. A real piece of work.

PS: Barbara, you need a spell checker.

One more reason not to watch MSNBC.

92 posted on 09/20/2004 9:55:33 PM PDT by dickmc
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Dudes! We are, like, soo radical!


95 posted on 09/20/2004 9:59:57 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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96 posted on 09/20/2004 10:00:04 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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Are you kidding me.. we ARE radical because we believe in freedom, democracy and less government. To a socialist/communist - those are very, very radical concepts.


100 posted on 09/20/2004 10:02:20 PM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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Freerepublic was just called "radical" by a guest on MSNBC's Countdown with Keith Olbermann

One has to understand that Olbermann, since he had left SeeBS, has never landed a decent gig.
He had tried ESPN as a sports-hole and it fell flat, zipped around misc local stations, again fell flat, now...he needs to resurrect his moribund so called show and the only thing he can do is piggy back on the "cool-aid drinkers" in the media.

He is/sounds like the "amen" corner of CBSABCCNNPBSNBC and of course PMSNBC his mother ship.
He is a pathetic echo chamber/me-too schmuck who does not even know the meaning of "is".

If anyone in his right mind is paying attention to this clown, he/she need some serious doctor attention!

110 posted on 09/20/2004 10:08:55 PM PDT by danmar ("The two most common elements in the Universe is Hydrogen and Stupidity" Albert Einstein)
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Libs often refer to GW as "radical" as well. Compared to the dinosaurs on the left, I'd have to agree.

As for MSNBC, it's the last dying gasps of the liberal media (and their audience of 2)...

111 posted on 09/20/2004 10:09:15 PM PDT by SeenTheLight
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The woman who called Free Republic a "radical website" is Barbara O'Brien, author of the upcoming book Blogging America.

Apparently she is a liberal through and through, but she did not directly discuss ideology.

I love it when a liberal calls me an "out of the mainstream, radical extremist." My response: "Let's see, it's true that I am an unapologectic Reaganite. He carried 89 out of 100 states in two elections. How many states did your candidates carry those two elections?"]

Obermann referred to Buckhead, his real name, his work petitioning to disbar X42, and connections to Ken Starr. He said that Buckhead was "not a lawyer with a fetish for fonts. Instead, he is a conservative activist."

Obermann said that about 12 hours after the CBS forgery broadcast, Buckhead had the critique of the font, implying that Buckhead was lying in wait with some sort of corrupt foreknowledge (conspiracy theory alert). O'Brien said that a few hours later it went to Drudge and then onto the mainstream media (MSM).

O'Brien doesn't seem to understand that MSM never parroted FR or the bloggers the way that MSM outlets often parrot each other. Instead, the MSM people consulted their own experts, who confirmed that Buckhead and the other FReepers and bloggers had it right.

O'Brien says that she mounted a defense of the forged documents authenticity because she said "I have some expertise in typography." I must say that she certainly did not appear very bright or knowledgeable about matters. It is unfortunate if she was getting telephone death threats as she claimed following her defense of the forgeries. She also claims to have had to take down her blog because of obscenities people were adding, saying that there is a lot of hostility to people who are anti-Bush. If she was truthful about that (and she appeared credible to me on that point), some people (who think they are on our side) need to cut out their extreme misbehavior.

116 posted on 09/20/2004 10:12:51 PM PDT by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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I have noticed that Dan Rather and most of the talking heads (even on Fox) are saying Burkett was in the Air National Guard rather than the Army National Guard.

Are the Texas Air and Army NG headquarters co-located? If they are not, what was Burkett doing hanging out at the Air NG headquarters when he "saw" the Bush files being tossed? It seems to me that this little point is a rather big deal.


117 posted on 09/20/2004 10:14:04 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Remember: Benedict Arnold was a "war hero," too.)
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Freerepublic was just called "radical" by a guest on MSNBC's Countdown with Keith Olbermann.

To the Liberals, anything not as Left-wing as MoveOn.org is "radical".

121 posted on 09/20/2004 10:18:16 PM PDT by Polybius
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I videotaped the interview.

They talked about "Buckhead" while Olberman mentioned "Free Republic" and showed his picture with his real name under it - explaining that he had been "outed" by the L.A. Times.

In the last minute of the interview, while Olberman showed Free Republic.com on the TV screen, O'Brien said, "Free Republic is a radical web site."

She said that when the Dan Rather memo thing first broke she had made certain comments about it on her web blog, but eventually had to shut it down because some people were coming there and posting obscenities on it. She said, "Thats the way people who don't like George Bush are being treated these days."

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Barbara is mentioned here on December 04, 2002: http://www.ruminatethis.com/archives/000209.html

"Barbara O'Brien's Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Henry Kissinger, is appearing over at the Democratic Underground, and should be read by everyone" ~ Lisa English

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Here is Barbara's web blog:

http://www.mahablog.com/
Barbara O'Brien
Monday, September 20, 2004

Media Star

What a strange experience. I didn't actuallly meet Keith Olbermann, because I was in a little studio in Midtown Manhattan and the main MSNBC studio is in New Jersey. And I didn't get to say any of what I had hoped to say. Olbermann was going on about how blogs are possibly being used by political parties to put out rumors and spin, and I couldn't think of much to say except "yeah, could be." But I was able to sit in the chair and get words out of my mouth. Also I got picked up by a limo (whoo-hoo!) and got a little gift bag with a coffee cup and coffee and some chocolate-covered macadamia nuts.

They're repeating the show at midnight, eastern time, so you can still catch my television debute! I'm on early and very briefly.

Tomorrow -- back to earth. I've got a plumber coming to fix my shower.

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Maha on MSNBC

Barring a change of programming (for which I am praying fervently), I'm going to be talking about blogs on Countdown with Keith Olberman tonight. Wish me luck.


123 posted on 09/20/2004 10:20:15 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (All DemocRATS are either religious relativists, libertines or anarchists.)
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This IS a radical site because its on the cutting edge of truth finding by means of passionate debate with the intention of preserving our prosperous American culture.(Gasp!)

This is a compliment, we should send our thanks.

132 posted on 09/20/2004 10:32:23 PM PDT by right way right (Okay, I barely read the article but,God I am tired of this tripe.)
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When I was in high school they taught us in civics that far-left was "radical" and far-right was "reactionary." Do these attributions still apply? Granted my high school was situated in the shadow of Berkeley, CA but I had no reason at the time to doubt my teacher. It's one of those reactions one learns early in life that seems like a reflex - I notice when someone uses "radical" to describe a conservative.

Am I off the mark here?

Does the political spectrum still exist?


135 posted on 09/20/2004 10:42:35 PM PDT by Tredge (Your Democratic Party - A Cult in Search of a Personality)
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I am not a radical.........lot's of people bury bodies under their house.


138 posted on 09/20/2004 10:45:50 PM PDT by Gator113
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I prefer the term "bodacious."


139 posted on 09/20/2004 10:46:06 PM PDT by radicalamericannationalist (Kurtz had the right answer but the wrong location.)
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Aren't Freepradicals supposedly a good thing? Sorry, couldn't resist.


142 posted on 09/20/2004 10:49:29 PM PDT by fightin kentuckian
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