'Clear' bacteria link to Crohn's

BBC ^ | 9/16/2004

[Jeff Chandler]

We almost lost our daughter to Crohn's this last spring. She is now in full remission, so for her 16th birthday we took her to San Diego. Yesterday we went on a harbor dinner cruise. Today and tomorrow it's Sea World.

[kimmie7]

My best friend's son (age 12) was recently diagnosed with Crohn's. Bookmarking for later printing.

Great to hear that about your daughter!

[jonno]

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[Born Conservative]

I'm glad to hear she is doing well. Good luck.

[ScottM1968]

I know there are many probiotics out there; however, there are many with no viable bacteria in them at all, despite their claims.

I would encourage you to visit ConsumerLab.com for independent tests on all forms of supplements.

[neverdem]

bump and ping

Any idea if these are acid fast mycobacteria?

[MamaB]

Crohn's is what caused the death of our younger daughter in January. Sure hope this is true so other families will not have to go through what we did. It is a devastating disease.

[MamaB]

We lost our daughter on 1/15/04 to complications of this disease. She was in so much pain over the last 6 months of her life. Glad to hear that your daughter is ok.

[rabidralph]

When I was in A School in Indy, a shipmate complained about stomach cramps for a few days and then went on leave to visit her grandma. She got real sick down in GA and came back a week late to Ft. Ben. She was diagnosed with Crohn's and was processed out of the service after that. I don't recall anyone else at the Army post getting sick so it's really weird to hear the results of this study.

[neverdem]

I found this at PubMed using Mycobacterium avium paratuberculosis AND stains. They use an acid fast stain when they look for TB.

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Sep 14 2004 18:26:21

[lizma]

I remember when I think an Australian Doc linked stomach ulcers to a bacteria. He was flippantly dismissed until he was proven right.

It really bugs me that those who dedicate their lives to protecting lives can be so narrow minded.

[Jeff Chandler]

May God rest your daughter's soul. I had but a taste of your grief, and I pray for healing for your hearts.

[hocndoc]

That's HPV and cervical cancer, I think.

Spread the word: Pap smears are only needed because of the Sexually Transmitted disease, a few strains of Human Papilloma Virus that causes 99.7% of cervical cancer.

Virgins who marry virgins and who remain in a *mutually monogamous* relationship do not need PAP smears except every 3 years or so - to find that 0.3% of other cervical cancers.

Of course, the problem is how to be absolutely sure of the "mutually monogamous" part. (Great line from a movie:" The problem with adultery is that you have to lie to your wife.")

[matchwood]

And here all these years I thought grain products caused IBS and Crohn's disease to certain people. Oh well, I don't drink milk and eat very little grain based food; I'm 76 and haven't had even a cold for 6 years and feel fine. I think I will continue to avoid milk and grains.