Posted on 09/04/2004 2:18:21 PM PDT by wagglebee
We could make Fallujah disappear in less time than it takes to think about it. GW and the US are walking a fine line in Iraq, trying to help them establish some kind of working democracy. Getting maniac mullahs to go along with the program is dicey, but we're giving it a shot. Unfortunately, their followers have the collective i.q. of a bunch of thirteen year olds on crack. They're manipulated from cradle to grave by a murderous religion and have no life, no decent jobs, no hope. They're told their miserable condition is America's fault and their only reason for breathing is to get even.
Try living with a couple of so-called normal teenagers. They drive you crazy. We're dealing with a nation of teenagers in Iraq. The number of books published in the Middle East is what, two a year? They have no other source for news and reality than the mullah in the mosque or Al Jazeera, which, I'm delighted to see on Fox tonight, is being shut down by Baghdad for longer than just one month.
For Bush and the U.S., the alternative to patience and pinpoint bombing is dropping the hammer, big time and it may come to that. We may run out of time and patience, not because America is inherently impatient...although we are...but if terrorists hit us again, a school or worse, then Bush won't have the luxury of patience.
Foxnews tonight: continuing violence in Baghdad while Iraq struggles to elect some form of govt..A police station hit, American helicopter fired on, landing, killing two enemy fighters. Every other day some form of guerrilla violence fueled by foreign terrorists. What we should do is close Iraq's borders and take care of Syria and Iran, which is on Bush's list of things to do asap upon reelection...or earlier if events dictate. Easy for me to say. Still, it has to be done. If Iran goes nuclear...Israel won't allow that and has informed us pointedly. So we'll have to take care of Iran.
"Fathers will bury their children, and after 40 days (the Orthodox mourning period) ... they will take up weapons and seek revenge," said Alan Kargiyev, a 20-year-old university student in Vladikavkaz."
Russia has made mistakes to be sure. But then so have we. Remember us criticizing Russia for human rights violation in Chechnya? Remember us siding with the Muslims against the Christian Serbs?
Remember also that we supported the Muslims against the Soviets in Afghanistan. I don't think that was a mistake, only because the Soviets were known as occupiers not liberators.
So as Russia admits to underestimating the threat against them, let's give them the benefit of the doubt and work with them for a change.
There are those on this forum that are going to find it amazing that an Orthodox Christian area was attacked by Muslim terrorists, and nobody seems to notice this is a religious war of hatred.
Unless we wake up, we will die.
I don't CARE what their policies have been, or will be (ONLY in THIS regard, with the slaughtered innocent children)...this was cold blooded murder.
I agree, let's work WITH them...Ronald Reagan did. And look where that got them!
NO CHILD deserves this. NOT A ONE. Even the so-called Palestinian's. THEIR children don't deserve to be taught this hatred and murder, to be USED for evil.
Danny, I'm not yelling at you, and I agree with your post. I'm NOT happy (to say the least) with someone sitting in the comfort of their home saying that those kids deserved this.
Thanks for printing the speech. My heart goes out to these folks. I assume their operations were funded by Saudi money, and I hope that issue will be addressed directly.
I have not seen or read if Bush has commented publicly yet. I want to see an outspoken gesture of sympathy. And I want there to be an offer of help if help is requested. They were there for us when we went into Afghanistan.
Hey, cut that out. I'm an Orthodox Christian, some of those mosques used to be our churches, and we want them back! (Sure Hagia Sophia is a museum now--we want it back too--but some of the others that were turned into mosques still are.)
340 souls -- bozhe mou! (My God)
If President Bush could find a day to stop in Russia to join funeral or commemoration of victims, his election in 2004 would be secured.
Russia's 9/11 - Putin has woken up the Russian bear, they see the face of global terrorism with tentacles in the Chechen rebellion.
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I agree with you. I don't know if he can get to Russia, but he needs to do something outspoken, both for human reasons, as well as for political and diplomatic ones. In a way, this is their 9/11 (although clearly its not their first one).
Since our Afghan war, I find myself much in sympathy with these people. They were the first to step forward to help, and our western euro allies all turned out to be "ex" allies (except the Brits, of course).
Sure they can be stopped. Ask Jan Sobieski, or the admiral at Lepanto.
And stop them we will. Just hope that it's not at the English Channel.
From which side? :(
Vlad the Impaler also ran off the Muslims.
I think they have always have been that way. However, they have always looked at it as an internal problem without connection to the worldwide Islamic terror. This incident may change their view on that issue.
I hope you are right.
There needs to be a world view that it is okay to eradicate those who believe that the death of innocents is a political means to a religious end.
"That's certainly suggested by his references to the glory days of the Soviet Union in his speech. You will recall how the FBI used 9/11 as an excuse, not to chase terrorists (at which they were never much use, anyway), but to get new "antiterrorist" surveillance powers, which so far have only been used against run-of-the-mill criminals."
You're kidding, right?
No, I know you're serious and totally, completely WRONG.
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anti usa bull.
You think we were right in those instances? Most of the time we are. Most of the time we do stand on the right side of freedom and human rights.
But if we decide to always think of Russia as our enemy, they always will be our enemy.
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