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Keyes: Constitution protects machine gun ownership [describes Israel as an example]
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | August 25, 2004 | SCOTT FORNEK

Posted on 08/25/2004 2:09:41 PM PDT by yonif

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To: All
Alan Keyes is the best man and most viable conservative candidate actually running for the office of US Senator from Illinois. As a God-fearing pro-life constitutionalist, and a man who has studied the history of our founding and understands and is unafraid to articulate the true meaning of the founding fathers words and intentions as expressed in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and elsewhere in the founding documents, Keyes is exactly the kind of conservative that Free Republic was set up to support. Those of you who are condemning him and or are picking fights with his supporters are working at cross purposes to one of FR's fundamental objectives. That is, supporting and electing patriotic men and women who will respect and abide by the Constitution.

God bless Alan Keyes. I am proud to offer my unwavering support for his candidacy. It would be a blessing indeed to have him in our Senate.
81 posted on 08/25/2004 4:20:57 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Luis Gonzalez
According to Keyes, the right of the people to keep and bear arms should be subject to government approval via licensing.

LOL!

And please inform us, O Great Protector of our 2nd Amendment Rights, how that differs from current restrictions and changes we can anticipate if your buddy Obama is elected.

We eagerly await your words of wisdom.

82 posted on 08/25/2004 4:21:34 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Alan Go!!!)
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To: TomasUSMC; All; Right_Handed_Writer; EternalVigilance; TheRightGuy; RedWing9; spintreebob; ...
Keyes needs now to attack Oby's manhood, his pride, get him pissed off so much that he starts debating Keyes.

An important picture is not only fitting for accompanying numerous good words; also a number of aspects of the subject at hand -- or, fingertip.

Cartoon featured in Chicago Sun-Times and Illinois Leader.

Keyes ping list, courtesy of FRN-IL. Just FREEPMAIL me if you want on/off this list!   also...

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SIGN & FORWARD PETITION to GOP Leaders: Fund & Support Alan Keyes Senate Campaign!
Get up to date with Alan Keyes, his schedule and campaign.


Be an Obama fan! 8-o   Encourage our Socialist Rock Star Barack! Don't back down! Do those 6 Lincoln/Douglas style debates with that 'right-winger'Alan Keyes!: info@obamaforillinois.com & bobama@aol.com

83 posted on 08/25/2004 4:21:47 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: Willie Green
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

'Well-regulated', in the eighteenth century vernacular, meant 'well trained'.

Alan Keyes knows original intent far better than his critics here.

I smell desperation.

84 posted on 08/25/2004 4:24:54 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (A REPUBLIC, IF YOU CAN KEEP IT...)
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To: Jim Robinson

God bless you Jim. Real good.


85 posted on 08/25/2004 4:26:26 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (A REPUBLIC, IF YOU CAN KEEP IT...)
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To: EternalVigilance

Thank you. I beleieve we will all learn a lot from Alan Keyes in the coming weeks if we allow him to speak.


86 posted on 08/25/2004 4:29:23 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Luis Gonzalez

How can he have a plan to win when he didn't even know he was running until a week ago?







How can Obamasama, your boy, have a plan to win when he didn't even know he was running against the Liberal Krusher Keyes, until a week ago?


87 posted on 08/25/2004 4:30:38 PM PDT by TomasUSMC
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"before they would be allowed to own and carry various sorts of weapons.""

He used the example of machine guns.

I'm impressed by how stupid some Keyes haters are willing to appear. Assuming they are not really that stupid.

88 posted on 08/25/2004 4:32:23 PM PDT by mrsmith ("Oyez, oyez! All rise for the Honorable Chief Justice... Hillary Rodham Clinton ")
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To: Jim Robinson; EternalVigilance

Black Man With A Gun

by David J. Miller
TheBluesMan@KeepAndBearArms.com

February 7, 2003




I am a Black Man With A Gun.

You wouldn't know it to look at me. Most people see an unarmed, 37-year-old, bearded white male; but I assure you that I am a Black Man with a Gun.

I borrowed this title from a man named Kenneth Blanchard; the original Black Man With a Gun. www.BlackManWithaGun.com He is, in his own words, "...an American of African ancestry," and he's not shy about the fact that he's a conservative Christian gun owner too.

People in society today seem to tense up when they hear the words, "black man" and "gun" in a sentence. This is because of the incorrect yet popular belief that most black men with guns are criminals. Blanchard works to shatter that stereotype through speaking engagements, shooting camps, training classes, essays and books. His primary focus is to break through the barriers of race that society foists upon us.

It is not an easy task. Many black men are reluctant to stand up and be counted among mainstream (read: white) gun owners. They prefer to keep their gun ownership private. This reluctance is a manifestation of the race barrier that has been constructed and used to keep gun owners of different races separated and, therefore, weakened. If we, as freedom-loving gun owners are to successfully regain and retain our rights, we must *all* stick together. White, black or brown, male or female, suburban, rural or urban; it makes no difference. In the words of Benjamin Franklin, "We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately."

Another manifestation of the race barrier is the inability, or perhaps the unwillingness, of people to "join up" with groups who are different. It may be very difficult for many heterosexual gun owners to support their local chapter of Pink Pistols. This is, I imagine, how some black gun owners might feel about supporting the mostly white NRA, and, how some white gun owners might feel about supporting Blanchard's Tenth Cavalry Gun Club (http://www.blackmanwithagun.com/tcgc.html). The key to supporting others is to recognize that Freedom, the right to self defense, and the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is more important than the things that make us different.

Blanchard often uses the words, "brothers," "sisters," and "family" when referring to his fellow gun owners. He does this irrespective of their race, creed or color. He defines "family" as, "a group of people united by certain convictions or a common affiliation." To Kenn Blanchard, I am his brother because we share a common belief in the inherent right of *everyone* to keep and bear arms for their defense and security.

I have joined my brother Kenn in his quest to bring people of every stripe together under a common banner: that of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. Together, we promote responsible firearms ownership through cooperation, learning and acceptance. But none of this can take place until there is a starting point. That point is Freedom; and the common thread running from that point which binds us all together is responsible gun ownership. Brothers and sisters can overlook their differences and ignore petty disagreements if they concentrate on and accentuate their commonalties.

Please join my brother and I in our mission. You are our family. We are your brothers. All you need to do to start out is admit that you truly believe in Liberty for all, the rest will follow naturally.

And if you should ever see a bearded white man at the range with a "Black Man with a Gun" sticker on his rifle case; just say "Hi brother!" I'll know immediately that you are a friend of Liberty; and a brother in arms.


89 posted on 08/25/2004 4:33:00 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: Jim Robinson

He IS a teacher extraordinaire, that's sure...

One thing cannot be doubted: no matter the outcome on November 2nd, large numbers of Illinoisans, and Americans for that matter, will be forced to use their brains and think about the fundamental principles that have made this crazy republic work for over 200 years.


90 posted on 08/25/2004 4:35:07 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (A REPUBLIC, IF YOU CAN KEEP IT...)
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To: EternalVigilance; Luis Gonzalez
I smell desperation.

Yeah, Luis is extremely worried that, like drivers licenses,
these wouldn't be made available to illegal immigrants.

91 posted on 08/25/2004 4:35:13 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Alan Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green

Ooooo....that's gonna leave a mark...


92 posted on 08/25/2004 4:37:41 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (A REPUBLIC, IF YOU CAN KEEP IT...)
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To: outlawcam; Luis Gonzalez; Howlin; Robert_Paulson2; DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; nopardons
For crying out loud people! Why on Earth are you frightened to express what you believe?!

Can someone please answer the man's question?

(I tried to make sure I didn't include any "recently departed" in the "To:" list...)

93 posted on 08/25/2004 4:39:08 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: sharktrager
Did you read what I said?

Yes I did, and I have no problem with this information in the public discourse. Bringing this debate into the public discourse puts the opposition on the defensive. They've been pushing us for too long. It's time to push back, not talk about mandatory trigger locks and other unenforceable, useless measures.

94 posted on 08/25/2004 4:40:58 PM PDT by outlawcam (No time to waste. Now get moving.)
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To: mrsmith

Where does the Second Amendment impose limitations on the sorts of weapons citizens should be able to carry (bear)?


95 posted on 08/25/2004 4:43:28 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Patria, pero sin amo)
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To: outlawcam

You are so right.


96 posted on 08/25/2004 4:44:49 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (A REPUBLIC, IF YOU CAN KEEP IT...)
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To: Willie Green

OK, I'll make it even easier for you Willie...you put up one link to any comment of mine in support of issuing driver's licenses to illegal aliens, and I'll leave the forum.

You fail to do so, and you are exposed as a liar and a spineless coward.

Bring it on.


97 posted on 08/25/2004 4:48:14 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Patria, pero sin amo)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Where does it require states to allow their citizens to own and bear any and all kinds of weapon without restriction?

If I have unfairly accused you of shamming stupidity to attack Keyes then I apologize.

98 posted on 08/25/2004 4:49:06 PM PDT by mrsmith ("Oyez, oyez! All rise for the Honorable Chief Justice... Hillary Rodham Clinton ")
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Since the poster contrasted Keyes and Bush while disparaging Bush, I said I hoped most Keyes supporters didn't share such sentiments.

I don't ask myself, "What would technochick" do before I post. Sue me.

I think I've figured it out.

If you don't "support Keyes" (definition appears to be fluid, thus the scarequotes), you are required, upon pain of attack and/or banishment, to either STFU, or, if incapable of holding your damn tongue, expressing your disapproval in the most patient, polite, cloyingly sweet, yea, complimentary tone possible.

But, if you do support Keyes (i.e., you're on the "approved list" as it were), then you can express your disgust, contempt, bile, and outright hatred of others without restraint, with utter gusto, and with outright impunity.

There's no room for any of that Voltaire nonsense about "I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it" -- except that those who disagree with Keyes MUST give full support to those who agree with him.

At least, that's how it seems to me.

99 posted on 08/25/2004 4:50:06 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Ancesthntr
"Certainly he believes in the First Amendment, but he also believes in common-sense speech safety laws, such as the federal ban on insensitive and derogatory speech."

Oh, the irony...

100 posted on 08/25/2004 4:50:44 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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