To figure out your 6-digit grid, eyeball it or use a square protractor to get NK455785.
To get your 8-digit grid, sharpen your pencil and get out your magnifying glass to get NK45527857.
Posted on 08/21/2004 3:34:34 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
But specifically, how do you call out a rain of steel on a target 20 meters to your north? If I am at 35d20'56"N and 24d15'45" what do I do to call the fire and how close do I accept hits to me? What got me thinking was "We were soldiers" and how they called in fire. Is it that accurate? and how to insure the coordinates?
Thanks for the reply though.
God bless these Marines!
God bless Texas!
They can lob those shells literally miles away and hit something the size of a house if they want to.
The math is pretty complicated, but the military term for it is "TOT" which stands for 'timed on target' fire. They can actually coordinate volleys of shells from different positions and time them so that every shell arrives at the same spot over a period of seconds.
I wasn't a cannon cocker, Canoneer can explain the math much better than I can.
"Danger close" usually means the enemy is just about within the effective burst radius of the shell our guys are firing.That can be pretty scary.
I hope that helps.
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You wouldn't call in artillery on a target 20 meters from your position unless you were extraordinarily desperate. Danger close is 600 meters.
But I can't tell you how many times we called artie on ourselves in Nam because of the lousy maps we were issued! LOL
Semper Fi,
Kelly
I wonder why that is? I would just make smaller rubble.
That is more to the heart of the matter. The math I would still like to hear, but real world I figured that was the case.
Can you imagine the adrenaline on that gun when you know you're backing your bros and taking out jihadis?
That's a awesome recruitment poster.
I believe that they adjusted fire using a polar coordinate system. They gave their position as a KNOWN POINT (using grid coordinates to the FDC. Then they gave the FDC (fire direction center)a distance and azimuth (direction to the target. The FDC calculated all the angles and directions for the guns. By adjusting fire danger close you could easily bring in the rounds to 20 meters if you have confidence in your cannoneers. This is suicide! The 105 rounds could take you out at 50 meters.
You know where you are in Lat/Long. What you need to know is where the target is is 6-digit grid coordinates. When you figure that out, get on the horn:
REDLEG57, this is DOODAD71, Adjust Fire, over.This is REDLEG57, Thank you for calling the 25th Infantry Division's automated artillery support request line. Please be assured that we will attempt to assist you with all available resources in the shortest time possible.
For air support, please call the U.S. Air Force at 1-800-BOMBNOW.
For naval gun fire, please call 1-888-SEASICK.
If you are attacking a fixed enemy position, please press 1.
If you are engaged in mobile defense, please press 2.
If you are defending a fixed position, please press 3.
If you are setting up a hasty defense or are about to be overrun, please press 4.
If you wish to cancel a prior fire mission request, please press 5. Press the star key at any time to return to the main menu.
If you are using a TA-312, remain on the line and one of our customer support counselors will be with you shortly.
Please select the type of fire mission you would like.
If you would like 81 mm or 4.2 inch mortars, please press 1.
If you would like 155 mm howitzers, please press 2.
If you would like advanced munitions, such as fuel-oil explosives or scattering mines, please press 3 to speak with one of our soldier advocates to complete our brief Advanced Firepower Usage Survey.
If you would like to request chemical or nuclear weapons, please press 4 and hold the line. The Secretary of Defense will speak with you as soon as possible.
Enter the map coordinates of the target you would like to strike, followed by the pound sign.
If you need to enter map grid designations, please use the star for a "q" and the pound sign for an "i."
Please remember to verify your coordinates and that your request may take several minute to process. [Beep-beep-beep-beep-beep-beep-beep-beep]
You have entered co-ordinates 32364519.
If this is correct, please press 1.
If this is incorrect, please press 2 and re-enter the coordinates. Thank you.
Please enter your battalion, company and platoon passcodes, each followed by the pound sign. As soon as we verify your passcodes, we will begin processing your request.
If you have forgotten your passcode, please contact 1-800-IFORGOT for a temporary passcode.
Please enter your passcode now. [Beep-beep-beep-beep-beep-#, beep-beep-beep-beep-#, beep-beep-beep-beep-beep-beep-#]
Thank you. [Pause] Your passcodes have been verified and your request will be processed.
We strongly suggest that you and your comrades take cover as soon as possible.
Thank you for using the 25th Infantry Division's artillery request support line and have a nice day.
ROTFLMAO!
Yes one large pepperoni with mushrooms, one works, oh and a democrat special: cheese, extra cheese, mushrooms, and tofu.
Seriously though, did you guys regrid your maps down to lower coords (my Dad was 2 tour vet and I grew up with Bragg maps) by drawing lines in important areas? The maps I have seen I could have mapped geology on, but would have never trusted a precise arty or air stike without modification.
To figure out your 6-digit grid, eyeball it or use a square protractor to get NK455785.
To get your 8-digit grid, sharpen your pencil and get out your magnifying glass to get NK45527857.
Other question: was the arty accurate enough to give precise or did you give "windage" to make sure nothing fell in your area.
Thanks for the help and patience and service all who replyed. You may have ensured my Dad came home; who knows?
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