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Keyes' candidacy will expose rift within GOP
St. Louis Post-Dispatch ^ | 08/07/2004 | Kevin McDermott

Posted on 08/07/2004 7:24:44 PM PDT by Graybeard58

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To: joesbucks
I listened to a radio "debate in the primaries, with McCain, Bush and Keyes.

For clarity, knowledge of the issues,being on the correct side of the issues, Keyes was the hands down winner.

501 posted on 08/08/2004 2:06:25 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58

Won't argue that. But he never once went overboard. Which was amazing. Here I believe he may overplay his hand which he has done in the past.


502 posted on 08/08/2004 2:07:36 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; Amelia

Nope.... no badge or watch and todate not on the solicitation mailing list, thank goodness.


503 posted on 08/08/2004 2:09:34 PM PDT by deport (Please Flush the Johns......)
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To: deport

Notwithstanding the headline on this thread, the Republicans in Illinois are now united and are definitely fired up.

Senator Fitzgerald commented on how different this announcement was from his first one. LOL...there were alot more people here today than for his. ;-)

Alan was awesome. The place was rockin'!


504 posted on 08/08/2004 2:15:50 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('Impossible' is the favorite word of cowards...nothing is impossible with God...)
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To: Howlin

Which of U.S. Senate Candidate Alan Keyes' (R-Il) policy positions do you not support?


505 posted on 08/08/2004 2:15:56 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: ApesForEvolution

We're not discussing policy positions; we're discussing ethics.


506 posted on 08/08/2004 2:17:24 PM PDT by Howlin (Saving Private Hamster)
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To: EternalVigilance

He'll get some attention by the media both national and statewide in IL I'm sure. I hope he handles it correctly and doesn't aleinate some of the party. He'll need all he can get plus some crossover and independents I believe if he's to win.

Who is running the campaign? The same group from Keyes campaigns in the past or has he brought in others?


507 posted on 08/08/2004 2:19:48 PM PDT by deport (Please Flush the Johns......)
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To: EternalVigilance

Where their a large media group there? National or just local/state?


508 posted on 08/08/2004 2:21:05 PM PDT by deport (Please Flush the Johns......)
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To: deport

Can't answer that as yet. Sorry.


509 posted on 08/08/2004 2:21:06 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('Impossible' is the favorite word of cowards...nothing is impossible with God...)
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To: EternalVigilance

Can't answer that as yet. Sorry.



Why? Is it that you don't know or is it still in house and not for public consumption.


510 posted on 08/08/2004 2:22:37 PM PDT by deport (Please Flush the Johns......)
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To: Howlin

And how are you eligible for such a debate?


511 posted on 08/08/2004 2:23:26 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: deport

There is a press conference going on right now as I type.

Several dozen cameras....real big contingent. Don't know where they're all from, but some are national.


512 posted on 08/08/2004 2:24:02 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('Impossible' is the favorite word of cowards...nothing is impossible with God...)
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To: deport

Yup. It's all settling fast though...send $$$$.


513 posted on 08/08/2004 2:24:53 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (DemocRATS are communists and want to destroy America only to replace it with the USSA)
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To: Howlin
Alan Keyes believes and has said that George W. Bush is evil.

That isn't accurate. According to the link provided here by sinkspur, Keyes said (in the metaphorical sense) better the evil you know than the evil you don't.

Now I think Keyes' words will ill-considered and wrong, but they're not the same as what you've claimed above.

514 posted on 08/08/2004 2:25:37 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: NittanyLion

Others disagree with your interpretation, including Freepers who were at the dinner where he made those remarks.


515 posted on 08/08/2004 2:30:30 PM PDT by Howlin (Saving Private Hamster)
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To: ApesForEvolution

I'm just as elgible for that debate as anybody on this forum, yourself included.


516 posted on 08/08/2004 2:31:23 PM PDT by Howlin (Saving Private Hamster)
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To: Howlin
Others disagree with your interpretation, including Freepers who were at the dinner where he made those remarks.

Well, here are the direct quotes as provided by sinkspur:

"The evil that you know, the evil that inspires you to fight again is not the worst evil," Keyes said.

"The worst evil creeps behind your lines and dominates your leadership."

I don't see a "Bush is evil" quote in there. I see a poorly-chosen metaphor.

517 posted on 08/08/2004 2:35:07 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: NittanyLion
You mean "nuanced," like John Kerry?

Now, I think you all have to ask yourselves, when you see somebody agonizing about something that's clear and making a decision they are under no particular pressure to make, where the facts don't bear out your opponents and yet, at the end of the day, they come down with a view that crosses the line between complicity and principle, they didn't do that because they were forced to it. See, my problem is that I sit in front of a decision like that and I say this is a decision where somebody sat down to figure out how much evil they could get away with. Now, I know, my friends, that after many years of Bill Clinton we may have lowered our standards to such an extent that all we care about is this, this evil [we've avoided]. That's not what built this country.

518 posted on 08/08/2004 2:38:46 PM PDT by Howlin (Saving Private Hamster)
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To: NittanyLion

Would you find it flattering if someone referred to you as "the bullet that kills you"?


519 posted on 08/08/2004 2:39:20 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Some of my best friends are white, middle-class males.)
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To: NittanyLion
If you go back to the article the quote is sourced from, you'll see that the Tarrant County Republican Assembly Chairman, who hosted Keyes, was left with the impression that Keyes was calling Bush "evil."

Many who were there were left with the same impression.

520 posted on 08/08/2004 2:40:01 PM PDT by sinkspur (If we were as good as our dogs think we are, what a wonderful world we'd have!)
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