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Amazon Warrior Women
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Posted on 08/04/2004 8:51:53 PM PDT by blam

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1 posted on 08/04/2004 8:51:54 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Did Amazon archers really cut off one of their breasts to facilitate the use of their weapons? In the spirit of "everything you know is wrong", I'd really like to know if this was ever documented.


2 posted on 08/04/2004 8:53:56 PM PDT by asgardshill ("Jack Black - killing brain cells and making friends UNTIL 2004")
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To: Xenalyte

This should have been an auto-ping.


3 posted on 08/04/2004 8:55:14 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Refuse to allow anyone who could only get a government job tell you how to run your life.)
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To: SunkenCiv; burrian

GGG Ping.


4 posted on 08/04/2004 8:55:18 PM PDT by blam
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To: asgardshill
"Did Amazon archers really cut off one of their breasts to facilitate the use of their weapons? In the spirit of "everything you know is wrong", I'd really like to know if this was ever documented."

Don't know. The only thing I know about Amazons it that the river in South America was named such because the Spanish claimed to have seen women warriors lining the banks when they toured the area.

5 posted on 08/04/2004 8:59:16 PM PDT by blam
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Don't know either but clearly that long ago strong women took charge when the men were dead from wars and disease.Doesn't sound like pampered wenches we see now but the great walk amongst us.


6 posted on 08/04/2004 9:20:34 PM PDT by noodler
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The women who stay at home and raise the kids/clean up the dog's mess/work to bring money into the family while Dad's away serving his country have always held my awe and respect.


7 posted on 08/04/2004 9:24:18 PM PDT by asgardshill ("Jack Black - killing brain cells and making friends UNTIL 2004")
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To: blam

The show was fascinating. In a kurgan in the Russian steppes, the archaeologists found a 2500 yr old burial of a woman likely mortally injured in combat. Her apparel matched exactly Herodotus' description of the Amazons, and she was buried with spiritual items and weapons.

Then they drove deep into the backwaters of the Russian steppes and found a modern nomad child with blond hair and very European features whose DNA matched closely the DNA extracted from the Amazon burial. And the villagers still used recurve bows and the tall coned hats of the Amazons.
This is just further support that proto-Europeans penetrated the Steppes and shaped the cultures there. In the larger context of the rise of civilization, it certainly seems to support that as the agricultural societies arose, entire clans of nomadic European people fled to the peripheries of the civilized world. We can only speculate as to their motives in doing so.


8 posted on 08/04/2004 9:37:02 PM PDT by burrian
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It was indeed, very interesting. The patterns on the clothes and other cloth items matched closely as well. The nomads of remote Mongolia appear to have mingled with and descended from these legendary Amazons.


9 posted on 08/04/2004 9:42:06 PM PDT by ODC-GIRL (Proudly serving our Nation's Homeland Defense)
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Plus, that little blond girl was adorable.

She really seemed to be sopping it all up. She must have always known she was special, and then all the scientists descend on her village in the middle of nowhere and tell her she is descended from legendary warrior princesses!

I hope that village tells the tale for many years.


10 posted on 08/04/2004 9:49:40 PM PDT by burrian
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I imagine it was a very exciting thing for them. What satisfaction that Doctor must have felt after her 20 years of research.

The girl was wonderful, and very skilled on her horse. The western clothes (hair scrunchies) cracked me up!


11 posted on 08/04/2004 9:52:54 PM PDT by ODC-GIRL (Proudly serving our Nation's Homeland Defense)
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To: blam; asgardshill; noodler; burrian
Thanks blam. FWIW, other possibilities are the Cimmerians, who destroyed Gordion in the 7th century BC (Phrygia was reportedly attacked by the Amazons; the Cimmerians were wiped out shortly thereafter by the Scythians and everyone already in the area), and the "Hittites", who wore skirts (or kilts, if you will). In an ancient bas relief of "Amazons", it appears to be skirted warriors wearing "Hittite" style helmets.
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12 posted on 08/04/2004 9:58:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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Well she was an oddity and don't think she didn't feel it for you could see it in her eyes.It was a very interesting program.She was closely featured yet and retained the DNA required for this to go through.I'm not really in the position so say history repeats or remove emphasis from the original post.........but something will be said about a cagillion horny chinese chinese soldiers and women in America who don't know what to do with themselves.All they have to do is get rid of the Men.


13 posted on 08/04/2004 10:11:30 PM PDT by noodler
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Probably my favorite book:
The History (Book IV) Melpomene
by Herodotus
440 B.C.
Translated by George Rawlinson
the discussion of the Amazons is found in "Melpomene".

14 posted on 08/04/2004 10:21:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: blam

It's been a long time since I've been as excited as I was last night watching that show. Naturally, I thought of you and the red headed mummies. :0)

I really liked that female archaeologist, too. She was great. A real people person. I think that's one secret of her success.


15 posted on 08/05/2004 2:31:59 PM PDT by JudyB1938 (I am not paranoid. I have "rational fear".)
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"It's been a long time since I've been as excited as I was last night watching that show. Naturally, I thought of you and the red headed mummies. :0)

I hate that I missed it. I might add that some of the 4,000 year old mummies in and around the Tarim Basin had the tall cone shaped (felt) hats. One of the mummies was named Woman With Ten Hats. Some of the hats were strange in that they had a double peak in the cone.

16 posted on 08/05/2004 3:26:45 PM PDT by blam
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You'd think, wouldn't ya?

Yo, Noodler, please allow me to introduce myself. I'm no pampered wench.
17 posted on 08/05/2004 3:27:32 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I love this job more than I love taffy, and I'm a man who loves his taffy.)
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Every time I hear the word "Hittites," I think of Bill Murray and Sigourney Weaver reading Tobin's Spirit Guide in Ghostbusters.
18 posted on 08/05/2004 3:28:30 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I love this job more than I love taffy, and I'm a man who loves his taffy.)
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To: blam

You would have LOVED it, I guarantee it. I wish I could see it again. That is one of the very few that I could watch over and over again. There's too much info to absorb in just one viewing.

What made it the most interesting to me is the fact that I believe there is definitely a link to "your" mummies. I wish they'd do comparison DNA with them, too. That explanation would make the most sense of what Caucasion people were doing up in that part of the world.

That little blond headed girl was so cute. Her impish grin was precious. And at the end when they showed her flying through the wind on that horse, you could see the regal pride in her. I wish somebody would see to her education.


19 posted on 08/05/2004 4:10:46 PM PDT by JudyB1938 (I am not paranoid. I have "rational fear".)
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To: Xenalyte

BTW, I thought of YOU, too, as I was watching that program. Maybe we should do a DNA on you, along with the rest of them. :0)


20 posted on 08/05/2004 4:12:58 PM PDT by JudyB1938 (I am not paranoid. I have "rational fear".)
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