Posted on 08/02/2004 11:54:38 PM PDT by ambrose
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The National Organization for Lesbians of SizE, ending the oppression of fat people and creating a vibrant fat queer community and culture
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Did any of you even read the article? They advocate healthy eating and exercise, with the focus on health as opposed to appearance. They are against classifying obesity as a disease.
They basically want people, and the government, to stay out of their business. Seems like a conservative position to me.
The anti-smokers whine is loud and constant and their army is vast.
The screaming from the SUV wars has become agonizingly loud and constant.
Now the armies of calorie counters are mobilizing.
Soon your neighbor will be spying on you. [aren't they already?] Calling that special phone number, saying your grass is too green, your painting your house too much.
In a few years we'll be issued comuter based ration cards for each and everything we purchase ..."I'm sorry Ms. Jones. You bought a sirloin steak two weeks ago." ...
Or ? ....We can all mind our own collective businesses, and tell all the "I know what's best for you" crowd to bug off!
What ever we do, we better do it quick.
Does that mean they're willing to pay more of their own health care costs?
What about healthy eating and exercise don't you understand?
There was a rerun about the Spartans last night on PBS. Now there was a culture focused on health, beauty and the military (men and women).
Also, don't seem to recall any depictions of fat, overweight people on the walls of Egyptian tombs. Everyone looks really fit and trim.
There was little obesity in any ancient cultures since Doritos and TV had not been invented yet.
Back off Jack. The problem is all of you junior high schoolers who despise someone because of what the scale says. People like you disgust me. This is the same mentality as launching a national campaign against people with blue eyes. No, fat people aren't going to "eat" up the medical insurance. Illegal aliens are using it up. Smokers, alcoholics, drug abusers, and most especially the drug companies are raising your rates.
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They advocate healthy eating and exercise, with the focus on health as opposed to appearance.
I don't think I said anything opposing that. One who eats well and exercises will not be obese. Let's try to maintain some commonsense here. I never said anything regarding appearance.
They basically want people, and the government, to stay out of their business. Seems like a conservative position to me.
Did I say something opposed to that or did I in fact defend them against those who sneer at them and deride them?
Your Department of Primate Husbandry reminds you that your daily allotment of Purina People Chow will keep you in top working order so that you may pull the Plow of Prosperity.
Do not complain, therefore, when your federal officials occasionally withhold your daily sustinence. And remember, the Food Nazis are your friends.
Smoke Nazis in Sector R have reported seeing cigarettes Yes, Dear Friends, cigarettes! smuggled in handbags and even in people's socks, where highly sensitive state documents were meant to be stored. Report your neighbors, Dear Friends, when you see this happening.
The Department of Cuts and Abrasions reports that some of your neighbors are still hoarding sharp knives, when we have eliminated the need for sharp knives with healthful, filling People Chow. This must stop, Dear Friends. You can't pull the Plow of Prosperity with an owwie, now can you. Please report to the employment station in proper working order.
Besides which when did we start sneering at others for their health problems?
Did you see my #23 ?
Like minds. ;)
I'm not sneering, though I have little respect for folks who lack self-discipline. I'm just tired of my premiums going up to pay for other people's bad habits.
Actually, there was a BBC News article on that very subject a few months ago (sorry, no link.) From forensic examination of mummies, the wealthy Egyptians *were* fat, oftentimes. They had themselves painted as slim because that was their aesthetic ideal. The poor of course were slim or skinny.
That pic is cruel and unusual punishment. It belongs on Rat Underground.
Thank you. This hysteria about fat people is ridiculous. Interesting how the population is getting heavier overall, but life expectancies are going *up,* not down. The number of heart attacks is going *down,* not up. People are living longer after heart attacks than ever before. The Wall Street Journal recently did a great article on cancer survivors.
In fact, that's a major point not considered by the "obesity makes my medical bills go up" complainers. What is also making the bills go up (besides the factors you listed) is that people *are* getting older, *are* surviving more dread diseases, and *are* getting more medical care at the end of life. Perhaps we should just kill them all, like the Dutch "solution." That would make it cheaper for everyone.
Damn.
Mr. Mojo that's no picture to have to look at before turning in for the night.
You need to get out more. I know five folks who have Type II who are far from fat and Mr. M says there are several at his work who also aren't fat who have recently been diagnosed. My theory is it's been around for years or at least since Starbucks started making fraps but the medical community didn't focus on it or most likely the drug companies weren't pushing those particular pills. Seems to me it's the doctors who are prescribing those expensive meds rather than telling their patients to limit carbs and sugar. BTW, you're argument is about carbs and sugar, not fat but whatever. Kinda reminds us it was also the medical profession that prescribed expensive antibiotics to patients with the common cold and we now have super bugs that the most potent antibiotics can't kill.
Blaming fat people for your insurance?
Seems to me the highest users of medical care are old folks. LIke your mom and dad, your grandma and grandpa.
Should we eliminate them from the population, along with diabetics (who come in all sizes and ages), smokers, those who drink?
Fatness like everything else related to humans is complex. It's not only about twinkies and tv. We understand and accept that folks are born with blue eyes and blonde hair, that some folks are tall, or short. But because we're bombarded by an unnatural number of caucasian, size 2 models/actors, we're expecting everyone around us to be blonde, blue eyed and 101 pounds? And ridicule and/or death to the rest?
Where is the logic, and compassion, in that? Where's the human rights? Where's the respect for human dignity?
Look at your extended family. Do they all fit the same exacting mold to be applied to fat people depicted on this forum? If when the aliens come and eat the fat people first... do we offer up the people in your family who don't "comply" with the perfection standard?
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