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Will an Immigrant Electorate Change American Politics?
AmericanEconomicAlert.org ^ | Sunday, August 01, 2004 | William R. Hawkins

Posted on 08/02/2004 2:08:52 PM PDT by Willie Green

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To: kittymyrib

Hispanics are going to save this country from anti Christian beliefs... you should be grateful; the roots of the pervesions that began in Europe will die in America because of the Hispanic belief in God...


21 posted on 08/02/2004 10:22:38 PM PDT by Porterville (Your sensitivity offends me you disgusting liberal.)
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To: cyborg

Why do you insist on muddling and avoiding direct statements by saying "what is your point" and "what are you talking about?" I took debate and have seen this shtick before, its not new its just tiresome.

How about you think it over before you post?


22 posted on 08/02/2004 10:24:02 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Recall David Dreier)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA

BTW, what I meant by Zell Millerite is those conservatives who rather go out of their way to push and promote a Zell Miller rather than help their fellow conservatives.


23 posted on 08/02/2004 10:25:12 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA

I am asking you to clarify your statement.


24 posted on 08/02/2004 10:25:46 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: cyborg

ok I can play your word games too.

What is your point?


25 posted on 08/02/2004 10:26:25 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Recall David Dreier)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA

I asked you to clarify this statement:

Because unlike your brothers there is a possibility they might be open to "selling out" for the social conservatism increasely less represented by the increasingly radically socially left DNC.


26 posted on 08/02/2004 10:27:28 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: cyborg
BTW, what I meant by Zell Millerite is those conservatives who rather go out of their way to push and promote a Zell Miller rather than help their fellow conservatives.

"That makes no sense." (Your type of posting is fun!)

There is no helping Zel he has retired, and as a wedge into southern dems he is very useful in deprogramming them. I for one see no drawback in having him speak at the convention, and as for ideological purity-compared to (R)nold and McCain and Rudy, he's the most conservative. "So what is your point?"

27 posted on 08/02/2004 10:29:54 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Recall David Dreier)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA

I question why Zell Miller would be invited to speak and not someone like Alan Keyes. Keyes is more conservative than HE is.


28 posted on 08/02/2004 10:32:30 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Porterville
Hispanics are going to save this country

Why can't they save Mexico or many other hispanic countries? Only ours? hmmmm....

29 posted on 08/02/2004 10:39:23 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: cyborg
Some people treat religion as an ethnic qualifier.

Very true -- and it seems the Irish and hispanics are the worst when it comes to that.

30 posted on 08/02/2004 10:41:05 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: cyborg
I question why Zell Miller would be invited to speak and not someone like Alan Keyes. Keyes is more conservative than HE is.

In that case I see your point. (See how much better it is to explain rather than assert?)

Yes, Keyes is probably the most conservative candidate the GOP has had for years and they won't embrace him. I think it is the embittered, grudge carrying nature the RNC has against candidates that don't shut their mouths when the grand poohbahs say the race is over, like they did in CA to McClintock.

That or it is just that the RNC worries Keyes will be "too conservative" for primetime. Either way is bad for conservatism I agree.

31 posted on 08/02/2004 10:41:52 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Recall David Dreier)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA

Either him OR McClintock...I took a look at the speakers list and its a RINO parade. Somehow I don't see their speeches being a Buchanan redux.


32 posted on 08/02/2004 10:49:03 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: FITZ
It is my country, how is it yours- or ours? hmmm....

Half the Anglo-Europeans can't even save your own religion without giving it away to liberal cause... how in the hell are are they going to stop the liberal socialist from steam rolling the rest of the culture..

Europe is of the past... it is a dying culture.

33 posted on 08/02/2004 10:51:45 PM PDT by Porterville (Your sensitivity offends me you disgusting liberal.)
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To: FITZ

Sometimes it can be an annoying feature *LOL* Religion ought not to be just another checkoff point on one's ethnicity.


34 posted on 08/02/2004 10:52:35 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Porterville

Forget about liberalizing religion, in Western Europe it's unchurched secularism and that's leaving a gate open for radical islamism. I disagree that European culture is dying though, but then I should ask for a bit of clarificaton first.


35 posted on 08/02/2004 10:55:36 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: cyborg

Just fishing ;)


36 posted on 08/02/2004 10:56:19 PM PDT by Porterville (Your sensitivity offends me you disgusting liberal.)
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To: cyborg

They're paranoid about Patty J's speach from those years ago. I have to imagine that is the reason they have no conservatives speaking. But if we take ourselves out of the loop for a second (which I don't normally recommend because that's how you get marginalized) this strategy, assuming its ONLY a strategy and not a window into their souls, is quite clever when you talk about the reaching out we were talking about earlier. Rudy is wildly popular, so is the actor who called himself a Republican, and McCain has a following within the GOP's wing of self-hatred "independence" from the party. So there is a chance for some reaching out going on assuming the base is wrapped up...But the wild card is the base, who from all accounts including yours is feeling disenfranchised and suspicious...I'm one of them, but I'll put on my Optimistic Cap that I've been trying to tell everyone to take off at the end of the evening and hope that its only a fake to the left, not a sign of a "New" Republican Party.


37 posted on 08/02/2004 10:56:48 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Recall David Dreier)
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To: FITZ

Because the US has all the lawyers ready to help them :/


38 posted on 08/02/2004 10:57:00 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
Name some prominent CONSERVATIVE(disregarding,of course, Preside Bush and V.P. Cheney),that would satisfy the purists...and remember I said PROMINANT.
39 posted on 08/02/2004 11:01:48 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Porterville
Europe is of the past... it is a dying culture.

They've been dying since the brain drain from WWI. Then their kids sold their souls to the Reds breathing down their throats for "peace at any cost" and can't break free of their socialist policies today.

That being said your comment about Mexicans saving America is alittle, well, "loco" considering whites here have nothing in common with Europeans. (Except the Democrat French Party)

40 posted on 08/02/2004 11:01:59 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (Recall David Dreier)
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