Hacking May Have Learned Of Husband's Lies

Salt Lake Tribune ^ | July 27, 2004 | Ashley Broughton & Matthew D. LaPlante

[stlnative]

I agree that this is a possibility... Your might be right... it could be that he could have snuck back and killed her (while in NC) and try to pull off "I was in NC, I couldn't have killed her."

Maybe this idiot thought he could get away with even by doing it on Sunday night. Something is not right unless Lori was very good at putting up a front in front of others. She was happy and still talking about moving to NC on Sunday night. The people at the party said everything seemed fine. Also no one has said they heard a fight between them at apartment complex (well no one has said anything in the media).

I don't know if he was really out to kill her... Maybe he thought he could get her out in NC and keep up the lies or convince her the move was a good thing after they got out there despite all his lies if she found out about them later. Something tells me he was trying to get away from SLC, his family and hers. Maybe they ended up arguing Sunday night and maybe she threatened to leave him. and he killed her out of fear she would leave him and expose him to his family.

I also don't think the pregnancy is what set him over the edge at this point. It was his lies and getting found out about or the possibility of loosing Lori over his lies made him snap. (If I can't have her no one can... mentality)

[Bonaparte]

"I suspect this is more a matter of laying groundwork for his defense..."

I think so too. IMO, he's taking refuge in a "crazy" act. He may not be "all there," as you suggest, but he's "there" enough to face the needle or firing squad, IMO. If I'm right, MH took many rational steps to not only hide his lies but to cover up the crime as well. That demonstrates that he was rational (if misguided) and that he knew the difference between right and wrong.

[the Deejay]

I also don't think the pregnancy is what set him over the edge at this point. It was his lies and getting found out about or the possibility of loosing Lori over his lies made him snap.

This is the way I see it, too. I think she was going to "expose" him & leave him.

[TheSpottedOwl]

This is publicized only to cover up the sleaze that would otherwise be on peoples minds! like the dnc!

Maybe. It's a human interest story, but I don't think intelligent people are going to forget about the Roman Circus, ooops DNC.

Besides the evil that the DNC represents, people need to see the evil that happens in our everyday lives. I'm keeping a close eye on my daughter's bf. Hearing about Lori and Laci's murders should be a call for family members to keep a closer eye on their adult children. It may not help, but then again maybe a tragedy could be prevented.

I understand your point of view, but I think stories like this should be discussed and distributed far and wide.

[Bonaparte]

No, I didn't hear that but thanks for updating. You are way ahead of me. :-)

[1L]

(Rolling eyes).

>>I hate to tell you but you need to read more... The party was hosted Sunday night by her boss (Church) from Wells Fargo at a local eatery. <<

Please read the article posted here: "Pictures from the party, held at a supervisor's cabin in the Uinta Mountains, show Lori Hacking in a baggy gray University of Utah sweatshirt, smiling widely with her husband's arm wrapped around her shoulder." The timing of the party is reported by a phrase a little earlier: "But by the time she arrived at her going-away party held that evening,"

and...

"A close friend of Lori Hacking, who saw the couple at a housewarming party the night before she disappeared" . . . "'I was in their apartment. I was looking at boxes.'"

This is what is reported by the SLC Tribune in this article. If you have something substantial that disputes this report, please post it. But I ask that you at least read it before posting here.

>>They left at about 8pm. This is the last time other people saw her alive.<<

They left their own apartment?

>>they found a blooding knife stashed in the apartment <<

This has not been confirmed by authorities.

>>The first place he went to told him that he could not take a mattress home with him today, so he went to another place that had a mattress in stock that he could take home.<<

Fine, but what exactly does that prove other than what it says?

[TheSpottedOwl]

This isn't the first time Lori has caught him in lies. When you are married to a liar, it takes a while, but you begin to figure it out.

Sad but true. I had a thought that perhaps she miscarried in bed from the stress. Wasn't she having trouble conceiving? The problem with some families that have strict religious backrounds is that divorce is highly frowned upon, if not totally forbidden. If she had wanted to leave him, her family probably would not have taken her in. Perhaps this is why her mother is in a "fugue state". She might know more about her daughter's marriage than she's letting on.

I'm still holding out a little hope that she ran away from home, and a friend is sheltering her. Of course that chance is slim to none...

[1L]

>>I don't understand your point<<

Simple. You inferred on one hand that he was waiting to kill her until they got to NC, but killed her in SLC when his "plan" unraveled by her finding out about the phony medical school. My point was that 1)if he was methodical enough to plan a murder, he wouldn't leave it open to her finding out UNC was a fraud, and 2)given his forced plan change, he did way too good a job of disposing the body.

[pinz-n-needlez]

If I'm reading correctly, he was leaving last week to come to NC, she would be flying east 2 weeks later.

I wonder if he planned to just 'disappear' after he left SLC and start a new life, without wife, family or, oh yeah, baby.

I doubt the baby figured much in his thinking. He was at the end of his rope, and that phone call threatened to cut off the knot minutes before he was in the clear.

BTW, they can get DNA from hair roots on her brush, or from her toothbrush, can't they?

Pinz
Who is doing her best to not pay attention to this story.

[Bonaparte]

What do you make of this, 1L?

Store clerks say that Hacking was alone and in the store for only a few minutes.

Hacking also declined to lay down and test out the mattress.

A guy goes to buy a mattress for himself and his wife, without his wife being there to look things over and approve the purchase. In fact, he doesn't even test the thing before buying.

From what I know of women, I'd say this is a very good way to start a fight with your wife and wind up returning the mattress to the store.

MH manages to stay married to the same woman for 10 years and doesn't know that a new bed is decided upon conjointly? I don't believe it. I think MH knew his wife's little behind would never touch that bed, or any other bed.

[sonserae]

I think he's in the nut house so he can claim "insanity" and get a lighter sentence.

[sonserae]

Married couples go together to look for mattresses. Apparently, the original mattress is MIA...when the police went in, he only had the box spring. At the mattress store they said he didn't even lay on the mattress to check it out.

[nycgal]

This would explain why Lori was upset friday afternoon, but was okay at the party.

Someone had posted a photo of Mark and Lori, at their going away party, on an earlier thread. He was smiling but she had a strained look on her face...not her usual bright smile. Probably still upset about the phone call.

I can't find the photo or I would have posted it.

[Bonaparte]

see post 70.

Great minds think alike. :-)

[luckystarmom]

Well, what is strange to me is him buying a mattress before he moves. If you were really moving, wouldn't it make more sense to buy a mattress after you move?

The mattress thing is very strange.

[1L]

I hate to tell you, but I've shopped for a mattress before without my wife. And did you ever consider that maybe they decided on one at a prior time, but were either price shopping, waiting for it to go on sale, or trying to find it in stock?

What I don't understand is what all this proves?

[luckystarmom]

Well, the only good news would be that she figured out there were big lies, and she is in hiding until he is in custody.

This certainly is a mystery.

[Grig]

"The problem with some families that have strict religious backrounds is that divorce is highly frowned upon, if not totally forbidden. If she had wanted to leave him, her family probably would not have taken her in. "

That's not the case here. Divorce is not forbidden among Mormons and I've never heard of a Mormon family turning thier back on thier own kid because they got a divorce. We discourage it as a solution to relationship problems that can be worked out, but recognize that sometimes there are very good reasons for it, or that it can't be avoided because of one party insists on it.

My own sister was in an emotionally abusive marriage and was encourged to get out of it by her Bishop (and my parents and all the rest of us in the family).

Given that Mark has the history of lying and covering things up, I doubt that she suddenly decided to pull off a scam by framing him. What would she have to gain if she has to stay 'dead' forever?

[ladyjane]

The more I think about this the more I wonder. It's easy to see him as the bad guy. What if *she* was the one pushing him to achieve and go to medical school. She finds out he's never going to medical school and on the same day she miscarries (hence the blood on the mattress). He comes home to find the bloody mattress and realizes she has run away. He doesn't know that he's been set up yet(bloody knife in apartment)and wants to hide the evidence of the bloody mattress so her parents don't see it.

I had relative once who was very good at being little goody-two-shoes and portraying her husband as a bad guy. She forced him to go to dental school and the whole thing just about sent him over the edge. He finally quit and she divorced him claiming physical abuse and sexual abuse. Who knows - maybe they were both crazy.

[TheSpottedOwl]

They and the DA know the defense is going to be temporary insanity, so at least two things they likely will want to establish are suspect's character and evidence of premeditation.

In a sense, people like that are insane, or mentally ill. However, he was able to work, at a psychiatric hospital no less. They will find a pattern if they look closely enough. They need a couple of highly trained forensic psychiatrists to interview people along with LE. They would be looking for a pattern that the cops just might miss.

Oh they'll go for the temporary insanity plea. I believe he deliberately pulled that stunt at the motel. He knows all the signs that indicate true mental breakdown/illness from his job. Law enforcement's job is to go through MH's life with a fine toothed comb. Find his grade school teachers and neighborhood friends. Okay maybe that is a little expensive and extreme, but I for one wonder when this started. If as the families say, he was just an average normal person, then what happened and when?

The Church and its members need to cooperate fully with this investigation. He was gone for 2 years on a mission. Somebody who was with him had to have seen or heard something. You just don't wake up one morning and turn into a sociopathic liar.

Yes I do believe him to be guilty of murder, because of his lies. You lie like that, you're capable of anything.