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Isn't it amazing how the liberals took over the denominations
4religious-right.info ^ | November 2, 2002 | Kevin Jones

Posted on 07/16/2004 7:05:35 AM PDT by Kerberos

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To: Alex Murphy
"I see that you are more than familiar with DUh as well...

"DU certainly has nowhere near the posting volume of FR. I read both on a regular basis"...Kerberos"

Now this certainly is an interesting post that you have made here. And what makes it interesting is that I certainly don't recall ever posting it and can't imagine why I would post it since it well, isn't true.

When I first starting posting on this board I did check out the DU site some, because it was frequently cited here, but those people are truly out to lunch. I will readily admit that the religious right located here has much better writing skills even though they come to wrong conclusions.

And since the link you presented with the alleged statement of mine: href=http://beta.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1015514/posts?page=101#101, goes nowhere and appears to be a beta site of Free Republic I wonder about the veracity of your claim, and if you have any other demonstrative evidence that might be more persuasive.

If you could, by some strange chance, come up with something that is more conclusive, I would be more than willing to admit to my failing memory.

41 posted on 07/16/2004 11:59:01 AM PDT by Kerberos (Convictions are more dangerous enemies of the truth than lies)
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To: Kerberos
"Do they really think they are working for peace and justice?" The answer is, "no, not at all."

Hogwash...the Biblical foundation IS peace and Justice. It's because this has been eroded that we have diminishing peace and diminishing justice.

42 posted on 07/16/2004 12:04:13 PM PDT by what's up
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To: xone

"Coming out are we?"

Not really, I've always been pretty straight ahead concerning my thoughts on the current day imbalance of the GOP. I think it is a position that needs to be posted here often so that real conservatives within the party might more clearly see what their apathy is leading us too.


43 posted on 07/16/2004 12:05:04 PM PDT by Kerberos (Convictions are more dangerous enemies of the truth than lies)
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To: Kerberos

I do not understand how a Christian or Jew could vote for and fund the Democratic Party.


44 posted on 07/16/2004 12:05:08 PM PDT by Dead Dog (Expose the Media to Light, Expose the Media to Market Forces.)
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To: Dead Dog

"I do not understand how a Christian or Jew could vote for and fund the Democratic Party."

And I can certainly understand that.


45 posted on 07/16/2004 12:06:37 PM PDT by Kerberos (Convictions are more dangerous enemies of the truth than lies)
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To: Dead Dog

"I do not understand how a Christian or Jew could vote for and fund the Democratic Party."

And I can certainly understand that.


46 posted on 07/16/2004 12:06:44 PM PDT by Kerberos (Convictions are more dangerous enemies of the truth than lies)
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To: Kerberos

What is your faith, if you don't mind my asking?


47 posted on 07/16/2004 12:12:11 PM PDT by what's up
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To: tacticalogic

Nothing to do with dogmatic emotionalism, it is simply returning the Church to it's theological base from the dialectic materialism that ruined it.


48 posted on 07/16/2004 12:13:16 PM PDT by Dead Dog (Expose the Media to Light, Expose the Media to Market Forces.)
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To: Kerberos

Sounds like us fundies have learned a thing or two from our foes - the gay activists, NOW and the pro-aborts. Good for us.


49 posted on 07/16/2004 12:16:39 PM PDT by MEGoody (Kerry - isn't that a girl's name? (Conan O'Brian))
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To: tacticalogic
"Objectivity and reason are two of the fundamental tenents of political conservativism, and this kind of dogmatic emotionalism stands in stark contrast to that."

What emotionalism are you refering to? Their 'emotionalism' in planning a strategy to accomplish their goals? Or your 'emotionalism' in disagreeing with their goals?

50 posted on 07/16/2004 12:18:23 PM PDT by MEGoody (Kerry - isn't that a girl's name? (Conan O'Brian))
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To: Kerberos
"So no I am not suggesting that the GOP go against its base, I am demanding that they get rid of their base."

ROFL! I demand you move to the Liebertarian party.

51 posted on 07/16/2004 12:21:00 PM PDT by MEGoody (Kerry - isn't that a girl's name? (Conan O'Brian))
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To: Kerberos; All
My sincerest apologies to both you, Kerberos, and to the thread participants. In error, I falsely attributed a quote to you that rightfully belongs to another poster.

Correcting the URL, the quote in question can be read at http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1015514/posts?page=101#101, and it was made by FReeper Koblenz, not Kerberos. I've tried to reproduce how I found it to begin with, but I can't. Kerberos has, to the best of my knowledge, never said such a thing.

I have pinged the mods and requested my post #40 be deleted from the thread.

52 posted on 07/16/2004 12:24:05 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Psalm 73)
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To: Dead Dog
Nothing to do with dogmatic emotionalism, it is simply returning the Church to it's theological base from the dialectic materialism that ruined it.

IOW, the end justifies the means.

53 posted on 07/16/2004 12:25:10 PM PDT by tacticalogic ( Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: Kerberos

Blame it on the Vietnam War; more specifically, the draft exemptions policy. Seminary students were immune from the draft. Many libs sat the war out in seminary & got ordained; now they run the seminaries themselves (including saying who gets to become the next generation of ministers.) *That's* one major reason why so many denominations are so liberal.


54 posted on 07/16/2004 12:32:36 PM PDT by valkyrieanne
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To: MEGoody
What emotionalism are you refering to? Their 'emotionalism' in planning a strategy to accomplish their goals? Or your 'emotionalism' in disagreeing with their goals?

I don't disagee with their goals, nor their tactics within the church. I do disagee with bringing those tactics - calculated emotionalism - into political debate.

55 posted on 07/16/2004 12:33:07 PM PDT by tacticalogic ( Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: Kerberos
The liberals' first reaction to the Confessing Church Movement was contemptuous dismissal. Now, they're worried. Good. Be worried. Be very worried. The laity want their churches back.
56 posted on 07/16/2004 12:33:23 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Alex Murphy

"My sincerest apologies to both you, Kerberos, and to the thread participants. In error, I falsely attributed a quote to you that rightfully belongs to another poster."

Thank you, I appreciate your honesty.


57 posted on 07/16/2004 12:36:49 PM PDT by Kerberos (Convictions are more dangerous enemies of the truth than lies)
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To: MEGoody

"ROFL! I demand you move to the Liebertarian party."

Well todays your lucky day, I have already moved, unless the election is close this year and I am forced to vote democrat


58 posted on 07/16/2004 12:39:44 PM PDT by Kerberos (Convictions are more dangerous enemies of the truth than lies)
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To: Tribune7

the religious right wing is the activist part of the republican party in much the same way as the homosexuals are the activist part of the democratic party.

A better analogy would be that conservative evangelicals are to the GOP as to what blacks are to the Dems.

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Well to the extent that you agree that the dems believe the blacks are trapped and have nowhere else to go so the dems can take the blacks for advantage--I would agree. The marker for this sense is that no blacks and few--if any -- conservative evangelicals are on speakers rostrum for the conventions.

where this breaks down is that the blacks are not really activists anymore. They're pretty much concerned with retaining their power base. whereas the homosexuals are activists for their agenda constantly seeking to extend homosexual rights and privledges.

The homosexuals are opposed not by a white group per se but rather by conservative christian evangelicals. fyi conservative christian evangelicals have not won a political battle of any significance for decades.


59 posted on 07/16/2004 12:40:01 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: MEGoody

"Sounds like us fundies have learned a thing or two from our foes - the gay activists, NOW and the pro-aborts. Good for us."

Yes, they have become very similiar to those groups.


60 posted on 07/16/2004 12:41:20 PM PDT by Kerberos (Convictions are more dangerous enemies of the truth than lies)
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