Posted on 07/04/2004 6:39:03 PM PDT by SkyRat
People of Eastern European bloodlines have a twenty times greater rate of mental illness than people with English ancestors.
Actually, I don't think Hitler went that far.
man, i thought we wuz all on prozac ALREADY!
Hey, I'm happy living with my "undiagnosed" mental illness. People leave me alone and I like it that way.
they seem to be planning on using the schools for the initial screening. they can simply give the kids a brief questionnaire, and when kids score above a cut-off point, refer them to the school psychologist for further evaluation.
it wouldn't be hard to screen the entire school-aged population. they could also require all doctors to do the screenings. then they could spread out from there.
and most people in our country go thru the schools at some point in their lives.
Is this true? It would explain a lot if it is.
the schools in NY have been screening for vision and hearing problems for decades. preliminary screenings for mental illness wouldn't be that hard to do.
Hitler actually went further. He had the mentally ill steralized by the thousands.
It sure is Hitleresque tho
Think happy thoughts
This stupid thing is back, AGAIN?
Hitler actually went further. He had the mentally ill steralized by the thousands.
It sure is Hitleresque tho
For one thing, it's also happened here with the eugenics movement of the early 20th century. For another thing, as late as 1968, adoption agencies were removing newborns from single white mothers by claiming they were mentally ill, simply because they refused to sign termination of parental rights that would free their babies for adoption. The women were involuntarily committed, and then their parental rights were terminated by the courts. Some of women were given shock treatments, although there was nothing wrong with them, besides the fact they refused to part with their own babies. Some were threatened with involuntary sterilization, an atrocity regularly committed against female inpatients in mental hospitals until well into the 1970s. In each case, the newborns were adopted out to strangers aganst the mother's will, and in at least one of these cases that i am aware of, the male adoptor was a homosexual.
Many of these women suffered the fallout from this emotional torture for decades. Adoption agencies and social workers have yet to acknowledge, much less apologize, for this torture of American women on American soil in the 1960s.
It's happened here before, and it can happen here again, folks.
"Mental illness": a metaphorical disease.
Parenthetically perhaps, I have a niece who's going into her senior year of college on the way to medical school - she was telling me today that last year she took an observational internship at a hospital in Philly, following various physicians around to watch how they did their job - she said that every one of the docs who mentored her during this experience at one time or another told her specifically that she should reconsider and not go into medicine for a career (because of factors such as law suits, too much paperwork, government interference, and so forth) - it's possible that in a few years we won't have enough qualified physicians to treat the everyday medical problems we have, let alone take part in a grand scheme like this.....
I think there is already a screening program in place. From the report:
Figure 4.2. Model Program: Screening Program for Youth
Program
Columbia University TeenScreen® Program
Goal
To ensure that all youth are offered a mental health check-up before graduating from high school. TeenScreen® identifies and refers for treatment those who are at risk for suicide or suffer from an untreated mental illness.
Features
All youngsters in a school, with parental consent, are given a computer-based questionnaire that screens them for mental illnesses and suicide risk. At no charge, the Columbia University TeenScreen® Program provides consultation, screening materials, software, training, and technical assistance to qualifying schools and communities. In return, TeenScreen® partners are expected to screen at least 200 youth per year and ensure that a licensed mental health professional is on-site to give immediate counseling and referral services for youth at greatest risk. The Columbia TeenScreen® Program is a not-for-profit organization funded solely by foundations. When the program identifies youth needing treatment, their care is paid for depending on the family's health coverage.
Outcomes
The computer-based questionnaire used by TeenScreen® is a valid and reliable screening instrument.151 The vast majority of youth identified through the program as having already made a suicide attempt, or at risk for depression or suicidal thinking, are not in treatment.152 A follow-up study found that screening in high school identified more than 60% of students who, four to six years later, continued to have long-term, recurrent problems with depression and suicidal attempts.153
Biggest challenge
To bridge the gap between schools and local providers of mental health services. Another challenge is to ensure, in times of fiscal austerity, that schools devote a health professional to screening and referral.
How other organizations can adopt
The Columbia University TeenScreen® Program is pilot-testing a shorter questionnaire, which will be less costly and time-consuming for the school to administer. It is also trying to adapt the program to primary care settings.
Website
www.teenscreen.org
Re: EO from April 2002
Executive Order 13263
President's New Freedom Commission on Mental Health
I found it at http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=2002_register&docid=02-11166-filed.pdf
But I'm unable to download the actual document. Server seems to be down. However EO 13263 has been revoked by EO 13316
Continuance of Certain Federal Advisory Committees
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=2002_register&docid=02-11166-filed.pdf
I can't download this either. Gonna try it again later.
First, let me preface by saying that "federal" funding has been eliminated for goals 2000. Anyway, where to begin? Goals 2000 was a 3 component program originally devised by Hillary Clinton and Ira Magaziner, among others that completely alters the way our education system works. It started out as a pilot program in Arkansas when Bill Clinton was governor. At the time he was president of the National Association of Governors. This gave him access to people in Washington that he mnight not otherwise have had. One of those people was Lamar Alexander, then Sec. of Ed. under Bush I.
Lamar Alexander signed onto the whole thing. Then when Clinton came into office he signed it into law. It was optional but states would not get any federal money at all (which they sent to Washington in the first place) unless they signed onto it and implemented it.
Anyway, it had three parts, outcome based education, parents as teachers, and school to work.
The outcome based education component basically dumbs down education. The really dangerous stuff was the "parents as teachers" part (which should read teachers as parents) and the "school to work" part. Parents as teachers was a way to identify "at-risk" kids. There was a list of questions or criteria that identified whether a child was "at-risk". It was either too much of this or too little of that. Unfortunately there was no "the right amount" category. They would either ask students a bunch of questions and then use their answers to fill out the questionaire or show up at the house and nose around and using their observations, fill in the questionaire.
The school to work program was a way to tie current students to future jobs. Only problem is that they determined at an early age what you were going to be when you grew up and educated you accordingly. This would be based on supply - assesments of students in grade school, and demand - database of projected workforce demand from business, etc. It sounded an awful lot like the old Soviet system.
Tied to all this was a "certificate of mastery". You would not be able to get a job without this certificate and it would have your full permanent record tied to it.
Luckily, Goals 2000 was permanently defunded by the Federal Government in 2002, as part of the "No Child Left Behind Act". My only concern is how much of the mechanism that was put in place has been dismantled at the state and local level? And, how much of this new program is just a reincarnation of some of the more troubling parts of Goals 2000?
Here are some articles on it:
http://www.hslda.org/docs/nche/Issues/G/Goals2000.asp
http://www.wealth4freedom.com/truth/4/goals2000.htm
http://www.eagleforum.org/column/1997/feb97/97-02-19.html
Is this going to be done before the presidential election in order to ban those deemed mentally ill from voting 'rat?
It depends whether the goal is to identify people who might have bona fide mental illnesses, or to identify people who might be politically dangerous. Even if there's no way a program like this could do the former even remotely effectively that wouldn't prevent its use for the latter.
think about the vision and hearing tests. they do those in NY schools. remember, the government can decide whatever it wants. they could have "mental health technicians" do quick evaluations.
refer the kids to "psychiatric technicians" for medication. who needs doctors. the government is notorious for using whatever level of training it chooses to do what it wants accomplished.
remember, this is FOR THE CHILDREN!
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