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Bill Buckley, you and I know the war was a mistake
The Hill ^ | June 28, 04 | Josh Marshall

Posted on 06/29/2004 7:00:20 PM PDT by churchillbuff

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To: churchillbuff

Why don't you quit posting lies on Free Republic?

Why don't you respond to who it is in the administration who told us that it would be a cakewalk? Ah, can't do it because it didn't happen.

Why don't you tell us that our troops weren't greeted as liberators with flowers and hugs? Ah, can't do it because we were greeted as liberators by the regular Iraqi citizen.

You want to align yourself with Tom Clancy, an author, and some retired generals who haven't seen a piece of intelligence, human or otherwise, in years, as opposed to the world's intelligence agencies who ALL said that Iraq had WMD, then be my guest.

You want to disassociate yourself from Tony Blair and the president you pretend to support and associate instead with authors and retired people who know little to NOTHING, be my guest.

But every time you tell a lie on Free Republic, which is pretty much as often as you post from what I can tell, then you will be called on it.


781 posted on 06/30/2004 4:19:40 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: churchillbuff
The troops in Afghanistan have requested more microwave popcorn and more comedy DVD's.

With your contribution I could have it winging on its way to them next week.

782 posted on 06/30/2004 4:23:15 PM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: churchillbuff
Because if people who dissent are quiet, the fools who got us in this mess can keep us -- and our troops - - in it longer than is needed for a decent orderly extrication.

LOLOLOL! You are an insane ego trip. You aren't a dissenter. You are a saboteur. You are a demoralizer. Our troops in Iraq would have much stronger words for your kind.

in it longer than is needed for a decent orderly extrication.

TRANSLATION:
You want us to cut and run just like the worst Democrats. To show the Islamics we have no spine. GWBush and Don Rumsfeld and the rest are the better judges how when to extricate. Not hysterics such as you. 

I would say we are doing a good job of leaving on our own timetable. Not Al Qaeda's time table which is the same as yours. Same as the Democrats

783 posted on 06/30/2004 4:23:52 PM PDT by dennisw (http://www.prophetofdoom.net/)
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To: churchillbuff

Get out of here and go to DU. You will find a fantastic reception for your garbage.


784 posted on 06/30/2004 4:25:30 PM PDT by dennisw (http://www.prophetofdoom.net/)
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To: churchillbuff
Because if people who dissent are quiet, the fools who got us in this mess can keep us -- and our troops - - in it longer than is needed for a decent orderly extrication.

If things go well, there will be no extrication. We will be there for the next 50 years. We are still in Japan, S.Korea and Germany. And we are there for a reason. We should never have left Viet Nam, either.

785 posted on 06/30/2004 4:26:35 PM PDT by Dec31,1999
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To: patriciaruth

Good post but I think "buff" isn't up for that. He would much rather agitate against us removing Saddam Hussein.


786 posted on 06/30/2004 4:27:15 PM PDT by dennisw (http://www.prophetofdoom.net/)
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To: Dec31,1999
I sure see Vietnam a whole lot differently now that I have lived through these last few years.

Enlightening, isn't it?

787 posted on 06/30/2004 4:28:44 PM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: Dane
JMO, it must really suck to be you.

It will really s--k to be me if Kerry wins because of fools who urged Bush into a disastrous invasion of Iraq. Also, please stop implying that being opposed to this invasion makes one "anti-Israel." You sound like Congressman Moran and Sen. Foghorn of South Carolina, who said that we went to war for Israel. Are you a secret anti-semite?

788 posted on 06/30/2004 4:30:47 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: dennisw
I'm not asking Hill to support the troops in a war he doesn't agree with.

I'm asking Hill to declare whether he believes in supporting the troops in Afghanistan. Does he support the war in Afghanistan?

789 posted on 06/30/2004 4:30:53 PM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: patriciaruth
Would you like to contribute toward a care package going to our troops in Afghanistan?

Your post wasn't directed to me, but I would like to contribute. How do I go about it?

790 posted on 06/30/2004 4:32:10 PM PDT by Dec31,1999
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To: dennisw
Get out of here and go to DU.

I suppose you're trying to get me banned, showing what seems to be a goose-step mentality that will not abide disagreement with the party line.

791 posted on 06/30/2004 4:32:51 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff
While you're thinking over whether you support the troops in Afghanistan, I have to run to the post office and mail something.

Be back in a bit.

792 posted on 06/30/2004 4:33:12 PM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: patriciaruth
While you're thinking over whether you support the troops in Afghanistan

I'll send a care package to American troops ANYWHERE, ANYTIME. Just because I think they shouldn't have been sent to Iraq doesn't mean I don't love and respect and pray for them.

793 posted on 06/30/2004 4:34:38 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff
Just because he penned 'God and Man at Yale' doesn't put W.F. Buckley on the 'A' list of most true conservatives. He's an East coast elitest who is more comfortable chatting with the likes of Roy Cohn or Milton Friedman than he ever was with Malcolm Muggeridge. Buckley was dismayed by Muggeridge's irrefutable assertions about the nature of Jesus Christ.

Firing Line, while entertaining, was little more than a sandbox for the pampered class of intellectuals. Rarely did the insights of a Muggeridge or F.A. Schaeffer get an airing on the show.

Just because W.F. Buckley decides to play turncoat in the midst of an election year bothers me not at all. Anyone who speaks out against Bush's efforts in the war in terrorism is a leftist and a coward. I am weary of hearing the weaklings whine from the comfort of their armchairs when our soldiers are standing guard for us all.

794 posted on 06/30/2004 4:39:10 PM PDT by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: churchillbuff
Get out of here and go to DU.

I suppose you're trying to get me banned,

I would love to see you banned! You are over the top. Go to DU. You would fit in much better!

You say you voted Republican for 40 years. Real conservatives don't try to sabotage a war effort by a Republican President. You spread defeatism and lack the spine to face the reality of a rough tough war. You think cut and run is the answer. I could understand this in a leftist or a Democrat but in a so called conservative this amazes me and disgusts me.

795 posted on 06/30/2004 4:39:41 PM PDT by dennisw (http://www.prophetofdoom.net/)
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To: churchillbuff

Do you even support the war in Afghanistan?

Do you support our troops?

Do you really think every single intelligence agency on the planet lied or was wrong about Iraq having WMD?

Do you understand they used them many, many, many times in the past?

Do you understand they hid things from the UN and that Saddam could have turned in a list of what he had and how he destroyed the banned stuff and we could have avoided this?

Do you truly believe Tom Clancy and some retired generals vs. Tony Blair, President Bush, Colin Powell, etc.?

What has the president done that you support?


796 posted on 06/30/2004 4:42:08 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: churchillbuff
Like so many other political sheep you have decided that polls are the way to form your opinions? What a joke.

Was there a lot of polling done during the 40s?

797 posted on 06/30/2004 4:43:34 PM PDT by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: DLfromthedesert

Amen. Thank you for that.


798 posted on 06/30/2004 4:44:50 PM PDT by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: patriciaruth; All

Freeper patriciaruth and others have done so much for our troops; my hat is off to them and their hard work!


799 posted on 06/30/2004 4:44:51 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: patriciaruth
Sure is. I've learned more here than I did in all my years in college.

BTW, I think Ann Coulter is a genius!

800 posted on 06/30/2004 4:46:08 PM PDT by Dec31,1999
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