Bill Buckley, you and I know the war was a mistake

The Hill ^ | June 28, 04 | Josh Marshall

[moodyskeptic]

Buckley's foolish to insist that there are no WMDs to be found. Saddam had years to squirrel them away, and a full year of slow build-up to the war while Bush allowed the UN to grasp for relevancy.

Only a complete idiot would not send his illegal weapons out of sight given this advance warning. Saddam knew his soldiers wouldn't put up much fight, he'd seen the 91 war. Murderous dictator or not, he knew the score.

WFB apparently has no respect whatsoever for Saddams cleverness. How did Saddam manage to hold 25 million Iraqis in abject terror? His good looks?

[Chgogal]

Traitors! It is amazing how somethings just never change.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Joe...read his other early posts too and should you feel it incumbent upon yourself to stand up for churchy

How come you call him churchy, but when you're called neopardons you get mad? Oh, and that is still no reason for the poster to call him names and attack him. That's just a weak excuse honey. He didn't write this article, he just posted it.

[Joe_October]

We haven't found WMDs? We have found some, but more to the point: We haven't found the stockpiles that Iraq SHOWED the U.N. Where'd they go, and can you prove it?

Very good point. The only thing we know for sure is the Press isn't going to show us the truth. It's against their interest to report that weapons have been moved or hidden. Since I can't be there to see them myselves and they won't report the truth, I err on the side of killing the people who would behead me and mine. Just my own personal thing there.

[nopardons]

It's faster than typing churchillbuff,which he isn't and it doesn't change his nick.

And Joe,following me to another thread is considered to be STALKING.

Are you really THIS enamored of me,lusting silently in the dark and doing the one handed typing bit?Well, get over it...I' a VERY happily married woman,with NO interest in you at all.

[tarheelswamprat]

re: "+ genocide (not to mention "puppycide" -- did you see the films of nerve gas being administered to the Beagle puppies, showing their slow and twitching deaths? --'course it never got PETA's attention...oh no!)"

Do you happen to have a source cite for this? I'm unfamiliar with this story and would appreciate any info you might have.

Thanks!

[Bonaparte]

Back when Reagan first came into office and announced his determination to end soviet communism, almost everybody -- right, left and center -- said it couldn't be done. Back when Regan announced SDI, it met with howls of derision from the left and even from the right. They were wrong, Reagan was right. And Bush is right today. To stop islamic terrorism, we must bring freedom and opportunity to the people of middle eastern countries. We must give them something to live for, so they won't look for something to die for. One way or another, all those regimes are going to have to change -- to secular constitutional republics with individual rights, religious tolerance and economic opportunity for all.

[lepton]

You forgot France. :) Austria and Ireland too. West Germany, Switzerland, and The Netherlands were 50-50.

Of your list there, I'll concede Ireland - though it was rather dominated by the U.K...the others were mixed or secular.

Point is, as you noted, the dominoes do fall, and today, instead of being a rarity, democracy of some sort is the rule.

[wardaddy]

You're not a traitor CB.

You're just wrong on this one like WFB.

It's sad....like him, you are pretty swooft on some things.

oh well,

regards.

[Joe Hadenuf]

And Joe,following me to another thread is considered to be STALKING.

Don't flatter yourself. That wasn't even posted to you on the other thread. LOL!

Wishful thinking eh?

[bd476]

Bonaparte said: "Back when Reagan first came into office and announced his determination to end soviet communism, almost everybody -- right, left and center -- said it couldn't be done.

"Back when Regan announced SDI, it met with howls of derision from the left and even from the right."

"They were wrong, Reagan was right."

"And Bush is right today."

"To stop islamic terrorism, we must bring freedom and opportunity to the people of middle eastern countries."

"We must give them something to live for, so they won't look for something to die for."

"One way or another, all those regimes are going to have to change -- to secular constitutional republics with individual rights, religious tolerance and economic opportunity for all."

Thank you Bonaparte! :)

[Joe Hadenuf]

LOL!

Oh, this is great!

[RinaseaofDs]

Laughable statements all, from Buckley, Will, and anyone else that opposes the war.

I think what we don't know about all the good and valid reasons why we went to war would fill volumes. We're finding Iraqi WMD hardware in a half dozen countries at this point.

By the way, Qaddafi didn't just decide to come clean because he's getting older. He came clean for reasons that were both compelling to him, and largely unknown to the rest of us.

It's positions like Will's and Buckley's that will ensure we won't have the sack to face down NK and China. That VietCong general was right, the way to defeat the US Army is to attack through their televisions.

[lonevoice]

With posts like that I'd say it's time to change your name to: goodreasonstovoteforkerry

Excuse me? I have no idea what you're talking about.

[Grampa Dave]

You posted the ultimate truth about churchillthetroll:

"You're just an anti-Bush troll that has managed to survive for some reason. Every post I've ever seen you make is bash Bush, "Bush bad", "Bush sucks", "Bush will lose", "We need to warm up to President Kerry", etc, etc, etc.

ChurchHilltheBushhating Troll, "You are a Moby Troll pretending to be a conservative. You are a backstabber. Your posts show that you never miss an opportunity to play the backstabber of our president!

Et Tu Brute, the Churchill Troll backstabs GW again!

Churchill Troll, do you get paid for each back stab by the post or the word?

[nopardons]

Flatter myself?Not bloody likely,pet;that's part of YOUR delusoin.You showing up,Joe,is akin to a filthy,smelly,addle pated bum crashing into one,whilst walking out of Saks.:-)

[nopardons]

Great post!

Unfortunately,like Dickens,I suspect he gets paid by the word.

[Joe Hadenuf]

And Joe,following me to another thread is considered to be STALKING.

Tell me, how could I be stalking you on another thread when I didn't even post to you on that thread? Hehehe. How is that possible?

I would say you are the one that slightly delusional here. LOL!

[itsahoot]

I'm posting this because those FReeper who call me some kind of traitor for opposing the invasion of Iraq are now going to have to add Buckley (along with Tom Clancy and a number of military brass) to the list.

All the old senile conservatives go mush headed aka the father of conservatism, Barry Goldwater.

[itsahoot]

I like Buckley but he is just wrong on this.

He was wrong on the Panama Canal too. It will only get worse, unless he becomes a recluse.