Posted on 06/10/2004 12:19:49 AM PDT by kattracks
Hinduism is pagan. Pagan is the belief in many gods and in imanent divinity. Hinduism is a vast congeries of pagan systems that added to each other as one group conquered or absorbed another. The spirituality of the Gita is pagan spirituality. It is high order paganism that approaches the atheism og Gautama, but paganism nonetheless and never affected any large part of the population. It could inform the lives of a very few in the ruling class. The lesser folks concentrated on the multiple gods and spirits and worshipped by propitiation of those gods.
It'll be an embarrassment so bombastic the liars in the quisling Liberal-Socialist Lamestream media will struggle with the denial for years to come. :o)
So it has been said, so it shall be written. {~or something like that :o) }
...just watch & see.
While the popular vote may be close, within a few percentage points, the Electoral Vote will not. This will be a landslide. Bush will get more than 300 EV.
I've decided to give you a proper response.
I don't care in what way man lived before the rise of the authoritarian State. It is moot.
What matters, and what I was saying, and what the Declaration of Independence is speaking to, is that freedom is man's natural state, and it is only other men who take it away.
If you do not believe in or respect Freedom, then I have trouble understanding what you are doing on FreeRepublic.
Most of the posters and readers on FR do not automatically characterize you in that way. Unfortunately it is mostly those that do that are motivated to write to you. Those that respond are those who have some axe to grind or who think they see something in your piece that they don't like and assume thereby that you are The Enemy. There are thousands of posters and lurkers. A very tiny percentage can make one feel pretty put upon.
I hope you are right, but I think there are millions of insane people out there.
So you mean to tell me that Germany was not Christian, but in fact occultists?
And you accuse me of ignorance?
And I am aware that they didn't kill just non-christians. Aside from gypsies and jews they also killed homosexuals.
...But no Christian fundamentalist would ever advocate that, right?
Wow. Your ignorance of history is breathtaking.
Wrong. Those who follow God accept Him as the authority. You must not have made even a slight attempt to read any scripture in the world, and I am including the Old and New Testaments and the Vedas in this group, as well as the Talmud.
People who are convinced of the existence of God often submit their own will and desires to the will and desire of God; indeed, this is the very meaning and foundation of the essence of religion. And, when, practiced, the existential rewards are experiential and beyond expectation.
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(P.S. - How old are you?)
Either way the outcome is the same. Torah enshrined for a people trusting relationships between individuals. A man could trust that an unrelated man would do as he said he would do. Not that trust was always rewarded but it was the norm from which other outcomes were exceptions. No other religion that did not derive from Torah has that component. Islam has that only within Islam and even Islam derives from Torah. Atheism cannot support a state that does not become absolute.
Ad hominem attacks and dismising a person you disagree without even a single facts or point to back it up with is the debating technique of liberals.
I expect better from someone on FR.
And pray tell how does one know "God's will"?
If you have studied the Bhagavad Gita, (as I have for more than 30 years) you will see that it is pure monotheism. God is described as the Supreme Person, and all living beings are described as His children.
The monothesm of the Gita is also clearly evident in the Puranas and Upanishads, specifically the Isha Upanishad, among others.
Nou doubt there are many "Hindus" (a culturally designative word invented by the Muslim invaders, describing those who lived on the other side of the Sind River) who haven't a clue about the deep truths of the Vedas, and think that ancestor worship and propiation of demigods is the entirety of the Vedic religion. This is unfortunate.
The operant phrase here is just a set.... Atheism can produce a morality that transcends "every man for himself" only in a very small society and only for a very short time.But there is no necessity for that morality. Each person must decide for himself to adhere to a whole code that has no compeling reason for its existence except "the greatest good for the greatest number". Each person will see instances where his own greatest good comes from transgressing against the agreed upon rules. There is no Good rule, no reason for a man to resist doing that which seems good in his own eyes. He feels no God looking over his shoulder. There are no basic rules to felt by everyone or by most to determine that something is to be punished. Everything is arbitrary and those who make and enforce the explicit rules will change those rules to suit their own desires. There is no reason not to, no cultural norms.
You said that humans lived in "freedom" before society and government ruined the party.
I gave you a couple of examples of humans living without government or society (as we know them) and you say that my points are moot.
In your world does "moot" mean "LaLaLaLaLa I can't hear you"?
That was no "ad hominem attack." It was simply a factual observation based upon your post.
You stated that the Nazis were Christian. That is absurd. The entire spiritual ediface of Nazism was the occult, especially Norse mythology and an odd mixture of old German earth cults.
The SS initiation cermony was occultic to the core. Nazism was based, more than anything, on the occult.
In 1935, the Nazis removed the Bible from all churches in the Reich and replaced them with copies of "Mein Campf."
Himmler lobbied to have the Pope publicly executed, but was overruled by Hitler who knew that such an act would be terrible PR. The Christians were next in line for extermination after the Jews were disposed of.
Anyone who denies that the Nazis were heavily involved in the occult and their own brand of neo-paganism is simply ignorant of history.
Comparing FR posters to liberals is considered bad form, btw.
With Carter, everyone was thoroughly disgusted with those helicopters that crashed in the desert. It was the coup de grace for his Presidency. I remember that time well, and everybody was really sick over that failed rescue attempt.
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