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CA: Conservancy Spending Assailed - Audit says that mountains agency misused $7 million
Los Angeles Times ^
| June 6, 2004
| Sue Fox and Andrew Blankstein
Posted on 06/08/2004 1:18:11 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: DumpsterDiver; Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; hedgetrimmer; calcowgirl; GVgirl; farmfriend
Wow!! The Joe Must Go is a great site. I encourage all of you to take some time and read what is happening at the SMMC. Here is an excerpt from the Malibu Times article linked at the Joe must go site:
At the Monday SMMC meeting, McIntyre said, "After 23 years of dining at the public trough with zero accountability, it is time for Joe to go. There will be no more stealth elections. There will be no more cash grabs at the expense of homeowners for the benefit of select developers and the political allies of this board. There will be no more trampling the rights of homeowners so an elite few can conspire ... to help themselves to more of our hard-earned money. You may have won this round, but I promise you, this fight has just begun."
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posted on
06/08/2004 4:24:16 PM PDT
by
forester
( An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
To: forester
Is the goal of the Sierra Nevada Conservancy to buy the Sierra's and turn it into the Range of Light National Park? How bout the Range of Light No Entry Zone?
In most such cases, "no entry" also means "no escape." One need only look at the map and consider it the other way around.
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posted on
06/08/2004 4:27:36 PM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
To: calcowgirl
This is what I get as an error message: The requested URL /columnindex/js/sniffer.js was not found on this server. I have never seen this before. What does it mean?
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posted on
06/08/2004 4:28:25 PM PDT
by
forester
( An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
To: Carry_Okie
In most such cases, "no entry" also means "no escape." One need only look at the map and consider it the other way around. Hey Uncle Mark, your paranoia is showing ;)
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posted on
06/08/2004 4:30:54 PM PDT
by
forester
( An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
To: forester
Hey Uncle Mark, your paranoia is showing ;) Call it a reflection on history. When the middle class defeated feudalism, it was in many respects because the lords were inside the castle and the people controlled the land. Methinks they won't make that mistake twice.
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posted on
06/08/2004 4:34:42 PM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
To: forester
The requested URL /columnindex/js/sniffer.js was not found on this server. I have never seen this before. What does it mean? It's called a 404. It may be that your browser is attaching an extra character such as a slash to the URL. Some servers get touchy about that. Hover over the source link and see if when you click it that the exact text is repeated on the address bar at the top of the window. If that doesn't work, add a forward slash to the address and try it again.
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posted on
06/08/2004 4:37:48 PM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
To: Carry_Okie
When the middle class defeated feudalism, it was in many respects because the lords were inside the castle and the people controlled the land. IIRC, the French aristocracy was pretty much wiped out during the French Revolution. Something about peasants with pitchforks... and didn't the "barbarian" Goths sack Rome?
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posted on
06/08/2004 4:41:19 PM PDT
by
forester
( An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
To: LPDen
Land should be private property, and whoever owns it should have the right of private property, that is, to say, the right to exploit or dispose of it in whatever way they choose. Including the right to market habitat management services. Welcome to FreeRepublic.
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posted on
06/08/2004 4:41:32 PM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
To: forester
IIRC, the French aristocracy was pretty much wiped out during the French Revolution. Something about peasants with pitchforks... Not quite; the peasants had direction: freemasons with an objective. ;-)
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posted on
06/08/2004 4:43:23 PM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
To: forester
[Doug] McIntyre said, "You may have won this round, but I promise you, this fight has just begun."You should've heard how angry Doug was the night he got his property tax bill! He was seriously ticked off.
Joe (whatever his last name is) actually called into the program to defend himself. It was quite the little chat.
To: Carry_Okie
Not quite; the peasants had direction: freemasons with an objective. ;-) Boy, we could really suck up some bandwidth with this subject couldn't we? ;-)
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posted on
06/08/2004 4:57:05 PM PDT
by
forester
( An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
To: DumpsterDiver
He was seriously ticked off. Is the Joe must go site his creation? BTW, thanks for the link, it made my day.
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posted on
06/08/2004 4:58:51 PM PDT
by
forester
( An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
To: LPDen
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posted on
06/08/2004 5:11:33 PM PDT
by
farmfriend
( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
To: forester
Is the Joe must go site his creation?This came about last November or December so I don't remember it clearly, but I'm pretty sure Doug set up the website.
I believe he also spearheaded the meeting in Agoura Hills that the article you read in the Malibu Times discusses. He said he needed some moral support from other residents in the area and he got it.
BTW, thanks for the link, it made my day.
You're welcome.
To: forester
Boy, we could really suck up some bandwidth with this subject couldn't we? ;-) LOL! Not gonna happen, but I can say that there was even a Malthusian component to the Jacobin pholosophy.
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posted on
06/08/2004 5:40:51 PM PDT
by
Carry_Okie
(The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
To: forester
"Is the goal of the Sierra Nevada Conservancy to buy the Sierra's and turn it into the Range of Light National Park?"That's been the goal of the Sierra Flub for a long time!!! In fact, at one time, they were actually going to name it "Charismatic Megaflora," but decided to stay with what John Muir called the mountain range.
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posted on
06/08/2004 8:40:39 PM PDT
by
SierraWasp
(Democrats are developing a drumbeat of disdain for America's values!!! Disdain the Fraidycrats!!!)
To: Carry_Okie; marsh2; forester; farmfriend; calcowgirl
"Jacobin pholosophy."I don't got to show you no steenkin Jacoby & Meyers lowyers!!! (there! How's that for shallow and insipid?)
To me... The whole point of this crooked conservancy in the Santa Monica mountains should most certainly be used to sound a HUGE ALARM to the Schwarzenegger Administration about this monstrosity of a Sierra Swindle of state already in desperate staights, fiscally.
This is gonna be a "double whammy" for rural Sierran Counties on top of Arnold's latest "deal" with cities and counties over their revenues!!!
But... I guess if only 13% of Recall voters had the good sense to listen to McClintock, then NOBODY's gonna listen to this!!!
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posted on
06/08/2004 8:56:50 PM PDT
by
SierraWasp
(Democrats are developing a drumbeat of disdain for America's values!!! Disdain the Fraidycrats!!!)
To: calcowgirl
This is the kinda crap that caused ENRON and their auditors to get into trouble. Even if and when an auditor were to scream their danged head off to the papers... NOBODY WOULD LISTEN!!!
When CA suffers a further fiscal collapse... Then EVERYBODY will be screamin at the danged full moon, sayin "WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED HERE???"
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posted on
06/08/2004 9:02:27 PM PDT
by
SierraWasp
(Democrats are developing a drumbeat of disdain for America's values!!! Disdain the Fraidycrats!!!)
To: SierraWasp
I hope the Pacific States Legal Foundation in Sacramento is aware of this audit...
To: tubebender
Since we now have the Schwarzenegger ideology of 'open government',
one should just be able to go to the Audit website and look at the report, right?
http://www.dof.ca.gov/FISA/OSAE/OSAE_Audit_Reports.HTM
Well... I guess not. The last audit report listed was from June 30, 2003.
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