Muslim GI gets 14 months for avoiding duties in Iraq

Stars & Stripes ^ | 6.5.04

[LibKill]

Air Force Chaplain (Capt.) Hamza Al-Mubarak, an imam based at Ramstein Air Base, testified for the defense that Webster had done the right thing.

Back in the bad old days of the 1980's we called that "mutiny and incitement to mutiny".

If this is the quality of inam chaplains then we must get rid of them.

[Pearls Before Swine]

True BELIEVING MUSLIMS should NOT be allowed to enter the armed forces..

..Then it follows they shouldn't be allowed to receive benefits from this country or become citizens. Why should the rest of us protect them?

[mark502inf]

the battalion security noncommissioned officer

This is normally an intelligence specialty NCO in the S-2 staff section; meaning someone with a security clearance and fairly routine access to classified informatin. Not good.

[Righty1]

Yes as is third world immigration to the first world. Did you catch Hussein Ibish on Fox? He looks more like Baron Harkonen every damned day! I would sure like to extract his heart plug.

[Destro]

The Musli had no problem being posted in Kosovo I see. Maybe he helped his fellow Muslim terrorists "escape" Camp Bondsteel withouta trace with such security clearance.

[Siamese Princess]

I'm becoming suspicious of every Muslim I encounter.

I am suspicious of every Muslim I encounter and have been for many years, long before 9-11.

[Siamese Princess]

What the military needs to learn is that for 99% of Muslims, their "religion" comes first. Their commitment to their country is not an issue for them, as it does not exist for this country. So they should not be in the military, period.

The majority of American Muslims are not affiliated with a mosque and many, especially Iranians, fled Islamic tyranny. What I am concerned about is that Muslims do possess a strong sense of solidarity with one another and that in a showdown in the Middle East even irreligious Muslims will side with their fellow Muslims against the infidels. Iranians may be an exception -- they fled Islamic tyranny plus they dislike Arabs and Pakistanis anyway. On second thought, the children of Iranian refugees may disagee with their parents -- Cuban refugees are strongly anti-Communist and pro-Republican, their children, born here, less so.

[Siamese Princess]

Abdullah, if he had paid a little attention in school, could have learned that the Muslims were among the first to trade Slaves out of Africa, walking them out of Africa east. How African-Americans can convert to a Religion that condoned African Slavery and still advocates Slavery defies logic. American schools in their teaching of history insinuate that the United States was the only transporter of Slaves and responsible for all the slave trade, Abdullahs are the result of this education.

Modern public education teaches white, Christian children to be ashamed of their history. Westerners are demonized as the scum of the earth.

Americans are Americans and if you don't or won't defend this country get out. Muslims want what this country can give but do not want our culture. If you wont assimilate get out, this is not the melting pot of the early immigrants.

I wonder why a pious Muslim would choose to move from an Islamic nation to a non-Islamic one. From a religious standpoint, the one way he can justify it is by working for the Islamization of the host society. This is ironic -- he leaves a failed Islamic nation for a successful non-Islamic and seeks to replicate the old country in the new. Would an Islamic America be prosperous and free, or would it be an impoverished, corrupt, squalid pile of camel droppings like Pakistan? The relative affluence of a few predominately Muslim nations is based on: (1) oil or (2) the activities of non-Muslim minorities or foreign investment.

[Siamese Princess]

This has always been a rather obscure point. Personally, I think McVeigh probably had converted - since Muslims are allowed to lie to the rest of us idiots - but thought it would be better not to mention this, although it seems that he frequently referred to Gulf War I. (He was a nut on a number of other levels as well, of course.)

I read that McVeigh was either an agnostic or atheist. Before he was executed, though, he accepted the last rites of the Catholic Church.

[bad company]

this is tatamount to desertion and he should be shot.

[WaterDragon]

"Some of the soldiers, when Webster didn't go, were saying: 'This is great, now we can do our job without having to watch our backs,'" Gioia testified.

I doubt their concerns were solely due to his religion. He must have given them other reasons.

It certainly does not sound as though his first allegiance is to America. If so, then he should be drummed out of the military that is our sole line of defense.