California considers program to measure pollutants in people. (Brave New World Alert!)

Lexington Herald Leader ^ | Posted on Mon, May. 31, 2004 | BY BARBARA FEDER OSTROV

[.cnI redruM]

This is a neat backdoor drug testing mechanism. Sort of like the military health and welfare inspection that just happens to turn up a joint. If the libertarians truly cared about defending any actual liberties, they would man the barricades over this. Big Brother will soon be sampling you and making private industry pay for it.

Gee, I wonder why American Corporations would rather outsource than do business under despotic American governments?

[ken5050]

Who needs a test? Ted Kennedy IS polluted......100%

[Rockingham]

The proposal has a commendable purpose. The cumulative human dose of pesticides and other environmental contaminants is a genuine public health issue.

The legal and political problem is that as these substances are correlated with human disease, the plaintiffs bar and generous juries will hammer the manufacturers, sellers, and end users.

As for the drug testing angle, what merit is there to valuing the supposed privacy of illegal drug users over the health of the entire population?

[.cnI redruM]

I think this will only make lawsuits even worse.

[George Smiley]

I only drink grain alcohol and distilled water to preserve the purity of my precious bodily fluids.

[.cnI redruM]

You're in the clear with Everclear.

[AmericanChef]

-"Her bill would require state environmental officials to identify and levy fees on manufacturers and distributors of those 57 chemicals "at their first point of sale in California." The program, which would start in 2006, could ultimately collect up to $12 million in fees annually."-

And, therein, lies the crux of the matter. Next: a little monitoring device will be implanted in babies to monitor their lifetime chemicals; anyone caught with said chemicals in their bodies will be taxed.

[DarkSavant]

LOL!

[.cnI redruM]

"at their first point of sale" - Nice way to levy a hidden sales tax w/o actually asking the legislature to formally raise taxes. What scum.

[Libertarianize the GOP]

ping

[P8riot]

The test:

"Pull my finger"

Test complete

These people have waaaaaaayyyyyy too much time on their hands

[farmfriend]

Rights, farms, environment ping.
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I don't get offended if you want to be removed.

[shaggy eel]

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[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!!

[Seadog Bytes]

Ah yes, we *DO* remember Sen. Ortiz....

Here in case you missed it, is a little blast from her past - an earlier hare-brained scheme - not too long ago when she sought to impose a tax to discourage the drinking of soda pop(!) and, oh yes, to 'incidentally' generate a little additional Liberal slush-fund cash, with which to buy more votes...

[TrueBeliever9]

The best indicator of metals in the body is a hair test. Most Americans are toxic with heavy metals! Look in the shower - that gray stain on the bottom of your shower is not dirt - it is metals! Metals come out through the feet also.

Metals can cause depression. They should start with Al Gore - I think he is a major depressor!

[Seadog Bytes]

RE: "As for the drug testing angle, what merit is there to valuing the supposed privacy of illegal drug users over the health of the entire population?"

Oh, I don't know. ...The Fifth Amendment maybe?

"When they came for the Catholics, I wasn't concerned, because I wasn't a Catholic. When they came for the ..."

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle." --Edmund Burke

"To sit back hoping that some day, some way, someone (else) will make things right, is to go on feeding the crocodile, hoping that he will eat you last -- but eat you he will." --Ronald Reagan

Chip, chipping away...Let's just try to do whatever possible to stay away from all the 'slippery slopes' we can, shall we...???!!! There will be plenty OTHERS we DON'T see in time. Do we really need people like Deborah Ortiz 'Nanny-Governing' every single aspect of our lives? How much government is TOO MUCH?

I'd guess that YOU are not a big 'illegal drug user' either, but don't you think we've ALREADY got ENOUGH Government 'help' (interference, intrusion) in our lives ...????

...or have I taken a wrong turn, and somehow found myself in the wrong forum here today...?

[B4Ranch]

Rockingham, I would love to hear you solution for over population.

[concordKIWI]

No more refried beans for me! Pork chops are definately out

[shaggy eel]

,,, you're a walking bio-hazard.