Posted on 05/22/2004 7:07:30 AM PDT by floriduh voter
'Remember, Terri's just one guardianship. What do the others look like? I bet they are disastrous too.'
I've been doing some reading since Sunday, and I'm still a little confused, but I bet they are too. I bet Terri is just the tip of the iceberg. I hardly know where to start....
'THE DIRT IS WEARING BLACK ROBES.' Now, THAT bears repeating.
'Nor does he pay much attention to the Florida Statutes that govern the care and retained rights of incapacitated persons. Such statutes (under the 744 chapters) require that a guardian restore an incapacitated ward to capacity.'
Actually, I believe, that unfortunately, he does. 744 is a double-edged sword, and is cunningly written in conjunction with other cunningly written acts to deceive and cover up murder by the state of some of its most helpless citizens.
'...One has to wonder what it is Judge Greer actually does see from his safe perch at the front of the courtroom..... He may even want to take at least a cursory glance at the laws of Florida that forbid such brutal treatment of its disabled and incapacitated citizens.'
It is becoming clearer to me that the laws of Florida do NOT forbid such brutal treatment of disabled and incapacitated citizens. It requires it. And this is probably true in other states as well.
Here is the short text for 744. Note that it is broken into basically two parts. The first part is for rights retained, and the second part (2) is for rights that may be removed.
http://www.flsenate.gov/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0744/SEC3215.HTM&Title=-%3E2003-%3ECh0744-%3ESection%203215
I've been working to put together the following off and on since Sunday. It's long and tedious, although I have tried to trim it as much as possible, and still have it make sense. As I said, I'm still confused. It is difficult to follow all of this, which could only have been thought up by a pack of serpents. The Bible says to be wise as a serpent and as gentle as a dove. Neither comes naturally to me, and when I read this stuff, and I look at the pictures of Terri and the strain in her parents' face, I could bite nails. But here goes. Remember to look through Alice's looking-glass....
I'm wondering if anyone else sees what I think I'm seeing, in regard to the words 'person' and 'disability'. I think there may be a bit of obscuring of the true meaning according to our rulers. I'll start with something cyn posted:
Re: Florida Legislature: Committee approves plan to create agency for the disabled
'...Supporters say the Agency for Persons With Disabilities would provide greater attention for 30,000 **developmentally disabled** residents being served by the state...'
Meanwhile, the following bill was removed from consideration in March:
Senate 0046: Relating to Disability Rights
S46 JOINT RESOLUTION by Saunders Disability Rights; constitutional amendment to prohibit depriving person of any right because of *disability* rather than because of **physical disability**. Amends s. 2, Art. I.
09/15/03 SENATE Prefiled
10/10/03 SENATE Referred to Judiciary; Appropriations Subcommittee on General Government; Appropriations; Rules and Calendar
03/02/04 SENATE Introduced, referred to Judiciary; Appropriations Subcommittee on General Government; Appropriations; Rules and Calendar -SJ 00010
03/31/04 SENATE Withdrawn from Judiciary; Appropriations Subcommittee on General Government; Appropriations; Rules and Calendar -SJ 00414; Withdrawn from further consideration -SJ 00414 http://www.flsenate.gov/session/index.cfm?Mode=Bills&SubMenu=1&Tab=session&BI_Mode=ViewBillInfo&BillNum=0046&Chamber=Senate&Year=2004&Title=%2D%3EBill%2520Info%3AS%25200046%2D%3ESession%25202004
This got me wondering why they would make that distinction, and why was that distinction made in the Florida Statutes in the first place.
From the State Constitution of Florida:
SECTION 2. Basic rights.--All natural persons, female and male alike, are equal before the law and have inalienable rights, among which are the right to enjoy and defend life and liberty, to pursue happiness, to be rewarded for industry, ['to be rewarded for industry'???] and to acquire, possess and protect property; except that the ownership, inheritance, disposition and possession of real property by aliens ineligible for citizenship may be regulated or prohibited by law. [I got sidetracked and didn't find what I was looking for. I'm pretty sure that those so-called 'aliens ineligible for citizenship' can include any one of us, but as I said, I got sidetracked. I did, however, pull up the fact that we are all considered enemies of the state since 1933. In case you didn't already know it: http://www.freedomdomain.com/bankrupt.html ]. No person shall be deprived of any right because of race, religion, national origin, or **physical disability.** [So right after the bat after declaring that all 'natural persons, male or female' are equal, they proceed to make distinctions.]
History.--Am. S.J.R. 917, 1974; adopted 1974; Am. proposed by Constitution Revision Commission, Revision No. 9, 1998, filed with the Secretary of State May 5, 1998; adopted 1998.
http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?Mode=Constitution&Submenu=3&Tab=statutes#A01S02
SECTION 21. Access to courts.--The courts shall be open to every ***person**** for redress of any injury, and justice shall be administered without sale, denial or delay. [We mean one thing when we say 'person'; as I think you will see, the STATE means quite another.]
SECTION 22. Trial by jury.--The right of trial by jury shall be secure to ALL AND REMAIN INVIOLATE. The qualifications and the number of jurors, not fewer than six, shall be fixed by law. [This is good! They should be held to this! Forget the Florida Supreme Court. Terri should get the chance to face her accusers, and have them face her.]
Does this mean that the state of Florida differentiates between persons with physical disabilities and persons with mental disabilities? If so, they are deprived of equal rights under the law, and it should be noted that Nazi Germany started down the road of genocide by killing who they termed 'mental defectives', and they moved on from there.
Next I looked at the Supreme Court decision in Olmstead v. L.C. w.Rel. Zimring.
'..In the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 (ADA), Congress described the isolation and segregation of individuals with *disabilities* as a serious and pervasive form of discrimination. 42 U.S.C. § 12101(a)(2), (5). Title II of the ADA, which proscribes discrimination in the provision of public services, specifies, inter alia, that no ** qualified individual with a disability ** shall, “by reason of such disability,” be excluded from participation in, or be denied the benefits of, a public entity’s services, programs, or activities. §12132. Congress instructed the Attorney General to issue regulations implementing Title II’s discrimination proscription. See §12134(a). One such regulation, known as the “integration regulation,” requires a “public entity [to] administer … programs … in the most integrated setting appropriate to the needs of ***qualified*** individuals with disabilities.”...' http://supct.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/98-536.ZS.html
Now, what I proceeded to find, I think, was that a 'person' was re-defined as a 'qualified person', or one who was EMPLOYABLE. Remember, the Florida Constitution says the 'natural' person 'should be rewarded for industry'. See if you agree:
'...The State correctly uses the past tense to frame its argument that, despite Congress’ ADA findings, the Medicaid statute “reflected” a congressional policy preference for institutional treatment over treatment in the community. Since 1981, Medicaid has in fact provided funding for state-run home and community-based care through a waiver program. This Court emphasizes that **nothing in the ADA or its implementing regulations condones termination of institutional settings ***for persons unable to handle or benefit from community settings. Nor is there any federal requirement that community-based treatment be imposed on patients who do not desire it....' http://supct.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/98-536.ZS.html [??? I think we will find this means that institutional settings are condoned for those who cannot benefit from community settings, i.e., are unemployable Read on:
The definition of *** disability *** according to TITLE 42 -
CHAPTER 126 - EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/42/ch126.html
TITLE 42 > CHAPTER 126 > Sec. 12102. Prev | Next
Sec. 12102. - Definitions
'...(2) Disability
The term *''disability''* means, with respect to an individual -
(A)
a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits one or more of the major life activities of such individual;
(B)
a record of such an impairment; or
(C)
BEING REGARDED as having such an impairment...'
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/42/12102.html
There's more. ....What is it they always say......FOLOW THE MONEY!!!!]
(7) **** Person, **** etc.
The terms *''person'',* ''labor organization'', ''employment agency'', ''commerce'', and ''industry affecting commerce'', ****shall have the same meaning given such terms in section 2000e of this title. [I think you are about to find out the true meaning of PERSON. It means 'human resource' to be exploited.]
(8) **Qualified** *ndividual* with a *disability* [remember the term 'qualified individual with a disability' was mentioned in the Supreme Court Case above]
The term ''qualified individual with a disability'' means an individual with a disability who, with or without reasonable accommodation, **** can perform the essential functions of the employment position **** that such individual holds or desires. For the purposes of this subchapter, consideration shall be given to the **employer's judgment as to what functions of a job are essential, and if an employer has prepared a written description before advertising or interviewing applicants for the job, this description shall be considered evidence of the essential functions of the job. http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/42/12111.html [So, am I reading this correctly, a qualified individual is one who is employable according to the employer?]
TITLE 42 > CHAPTER 21 > SUBCHAPTER VI > Sec. *2000e. Next
Sec. 2000e. - Definitions
For the purposes of this subchapter -
(a) The term **''person''** includes one or more individuals, governments, governmental agencies, political subdivisions, labor unions, partnerships, associations, corporations, legal representatives, mutual companies, joint-stock companies, trusts, unincorporated organizations, trustees, trustees in cases under **** TITLE 11,**** or receivers. http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/42/2000e.html
Okay, here is where I got a shocker. I knew this is what is behind all of this, but when I linked to Title 11, I let out a gasp, just the same.
What is TITLE 11???
IT IS THE LAW REGARDING THE BANKRUPTCY OF THE UNITED STATES!!!!
TITLE 11 - BANKRUPTCY http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/11/index.html
TITLE 11 > CHAPTER 1 > Sec. 105. Prev | Next
Sec. 105. - ***Power of court
(a) ***The court may issue any order, process, or judgment that is necessary or appropriate to carry out the provisions of this title. No provision of this title providing for the raising of an issue by a party in interest shall be construed to preclude the court from, sua sponte, taking any action or making any determination necessary or appropriate to enforce or implement court orders or rules, or to prevent an abuse of process.... [?? would that be 'due process', i.e., sham justice?]
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/11/105.html
IOW, the job of the courts is to administer the bankruptcy of the United States of America for the international banksters operating under the misnomer 'Federal Reserve'. It is not federal, and it is not a reserve. It is a cartel of thieves who have their roots in 'Babylon' and who have suceeded in subverting the Constitution of the United States, and placing all land, and all persons under the control of their Luciferian one-world government. These people do not value human life. Their god is not OUR God. They hate our God, and they hate his children. They value wealth and power and perversion. We are not free. We are chattel. Our lives are nothing more to these people than a means of more profit. Once we cease to be profitable to them, we cease to BE. I often get critized for changing the subject. Some would rather preach minutiae to the choir. IMO, you don't need just the choir. You need the whole of the American people to realize that Terri's war is an all-out war against them as well. If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, does it really make a sound? Americans need to understand that one is not considered a 'person' under the sham laws of this banker-controlled country with rights accorded 'persons' unless one is physically and mentally willing and able to dedicate one's life to the banking beast.
Take a look at this:
"Congress passed the Federal Reserve Act on the 22nd of December 1913, and from that day forward the United States of America ceased to be a Republic."
Anne Williamson exposes Federal Reserve. How your money -- AND LIFE -- are controlled by America's banking system
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=21872
The Bankruptcy of the United States
http://www.apfn.net/DOC-100_bankruptcy.htm
Okay, I'm getting madder by the minute. I was just doing some more investigating and came upon a site discussing this whole 'person' thing. What a crock.......
You are right. The people of FL are ignorant about laws that require the torture of the disabled. But even when informed, they seem to have no concern whatever. I have no doubt that Pinellas voters will reelect the infamous George W. Greer because at least they have "heard" of him. Note too that polls show the liberal John Kerry may yet win the 27 electoral votes of FL, and with those votes, the presidency as well.
HERE'S THE REST OF IT. PRINT IT ALL FROM THE TOP IF YOU ARE INTERESTED BEFORE IT GETS PULLED AND I GET BANNED :) WAKE UP AMERICA. WAKE UP.
'...The way the STATE gets around God's Law and thereby controls the People is by creating only an office, and not a real human. This office is titled as "person" and then the legislature claims that you are filling that office. Legislators erroneously now think that they can make laws that also control men. They create entire bodies of laws - motor vehicle code, building code, compulsory education laws, and so on ad nauseum. They still cannot control men or women, but they can now control the office they created. And look who is sitting in that office -- YOU....'
'....The STATE creates many other offices such as police officer, prosecutor, judge etc. and everyone understands this concept. However, what most people fail to recognize and understand is the most common STATE office of all, the office of "person." Anyone filling one of these STATE offices is subject to regulation by their creator, the STATE legislature. Through the STATE created office of "person," the STATE gains its authority to regulate, control and judge you, the real human. What they have done is apply the natural law principle, "what one creates, one controls."...'
'...They will always say that we are free men. But they will never tell you that the legislatively created offices that you are occupying are not free.
They will say, "All men are free," because that is a true statement.
What they do not say is, that holding any STATE office binds free men into slavery for the STATE. They are ever ready to trick you into accepting the STATE office of "person," and once you are filling that office, you cease to be free men. You become regulated creatures, called persons, totally created by the legislature. You will hear "free men" mentioned all the time, but you will never hear about "free persons."...'
'...The U. S. Constitution (including the Bill of Rights) does not grant us Rights. We have fundamental Rights, irrespective of what the Constitution says. The Constitution acknowledges some of our Rights. And Amendment IX STATEs, "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain Rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." The important point is that our Rights antecede (come before, are senior to) the organization of the STATE.
Next the Supreme Court says, "And [his Rights] can only be taken from him by ***due process of law, and in accordance with the Constitution." Does it say the government can take away your Rights? No! Your Rights can only be taken away "by due process of law, and in accordance with the Constitution." "Due process of law" involves procedures and safeguards such as ***trial by jury. "Trial by jury" means, inter alia, ****the jury judges both law and fact....'
http://www.worldnewsstand.net/law/person.htm
And now what does anyone think of this:
'... Refuse to acknowledge all judges who are also licensed BAR Attorneys. Every judge in Florida State is a member of the Florida BAR. This is unlawful and unconstitutional as a judge cannot be an Esquire nor can he represent any issue in commerce, such as that of the State. Every Florida State judge has compromised his purported neutral and impartial judicial position by being a State Officer through his BAR licensure. This is an unlawful monopoly of power and commerce....' http://www.worldnewsstand.net/law/bar.htm
...and this: [this is what I keep saying - we are slaves to the bankers. God said there would be days like this: http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Gen/Gen015.html#13 I am convinced He was talking about us, so keep your chins up!]
'....In essence, all court decisions are based on commercial law or business law and has criminal penalties associated with it. Rather than openly calling this new law Admiralty/Maritime Jurisdiction, it is called Statutory Jurisdiction.
America as a bankrupt nation is owned completely by its creditors.
The creditors own the Congress, they own the Executive, they own the Judiciary and they own all the State governments. Do you have a Birth Certificate? They own you too.....' '..... An Expose On The Legal Fraud Perpetrated On All Americans....THE COURTS RECOGNIZE ONLY TWO CLASSES OF PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES TODAY: DEBTORS AND CREDITORS [guess which we are?]...'
'....YOUR LAWYER'S SECRET OATH???
What was the effect and the significance of Erie vs. Thompkins case decision of 1938? The significance is that since the Erie Decision, no cases are allowed to be cited that are prior to 1938. There can be no mixing of the old law with the new law. The lawyers, who are members of the American Bar Association, were and are currently under and controlled by the Lawyer's guild of Great Britain, created, formed, and implemented the new bankruptcy law. The American Bar Association is a franchise of the Lawyer's Guild of Great Britain [which is the legal arm of the Rothschild's Dynasty. See also The Rothschild Dynasty http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/slavery.htm ].
Since the Erie vs. Thompkins case was decided, the practice of law in this country was never again to be the same. It has been reported, that ***every lawyer in existence, and every lawyer coming up has to take a "secret" oath to support bankruptcy. As Officers of the Court they have sworn to uphold the law as it exists, and as they have been taught. In so doing, not only do ***the lawyers promise to support the bankruptcy, but ***the lawyers and judges promise never to reveal who the true creditor/party is in the bankruptcy proceedings (if, indeed, many of them are even aware or know). In court, there is never identification and appearance of the true character and principle of the proceedings. If there is no appearance of the true party to the action, then there is no way the defendant is able to know the TRUE NATURE AND CAUSE OF THE ACTION. You are never told the true NATURE AND CAUSE OF WHY YOU ARE IN FRONT OF THEIR COURT. The court is forbidden to tell you that information.
That's why, if you question the true nature and cause, the judge will tell you "It's not my job to tell you. You are not retaining me as an attorney and I can't give you legal advice from the bench. I suggest you hire a lawyer......" '
Now get a load of this one:
'....THE INTERNATIONAL BANKERS' CORPORATE PLANTATION
U.S.A. STYLE
Before 1938, the law was not a public policy law. All these old cases were not public law deciding cases. Today, the cases are all decided under corporate public policy. The public policy exists in order to administer the bankruptcy for the benefit of the banker creditors and to protect the banker creditor.
Corporate public policy can allow the creditor to say to the corporate legislatures, "I want a law passed requiring my debtors to wear seat belts. Why? Because I want to be able to milk my debtors for the longest period possible."
It doesn't behoove the creditor to allow all of his labor producing debtors die at an average age 30 years. What would happen to the bankers' lending, interest, penalties, increase, repayment etc., on the entire funding and lending process if the average American life span was only 30 years? Why, the bankers would have to have 2 1/2 times the current consumer population to equal their current take. The bankers would need (instead of 250 million Americans) 600 million or even more. Maybe the bankers would need 2 Billion Americans because the individual can't contract for debt until he/she is 18 or 21 years of age. Therefore, if the average life span is only a 30 year period, the creditor could collect on the debt for only 12 years.
Now, if the bankers can just get people to live an average of 70 years) you are talking a whopping 50 years of indebtedness for which they contract and for which they are forced to pay back with usury/interest. With this situation, the banker creditor can now float loans worth 50 years of potential indebtedness and its payoff with interest in the name of the people, as opposed to 9 to 12 years.
The creditors and their property and their people are well taken care of. The creditor doesn't want the population to decrease per se, unless, it is convenient for the debtor ****to run up debts in another's name and then liquidate that debtor or that group of debtor people.....' [as in prescription drug benefits, bodies for research and organ transplant, hospice care, and the like??] http://www.barefootsworld.net/usfraud.html It's a very long article, and I have read parts of it before, but could not read all of it now. However, I scrolled back over it and some of these jumped out at me:
1978 - Uniform Brain Death and Uniform Federal Lien Registration Act approved.
1980 - Determination of Death Act supersedes 1978 Brain Death Act. Uniform Planned Community Act, Model Real Estate Time-Share Act and Model Periodic Payment of Judgments Act also adopted.
The enumerated, specified, and distinct Jurisdictions established by the ordained Constitution (1789), Article III, Section 2, and under the Bill of Rights (1791), Amendment VII, were further hodgepodged and fundamentally changed in 1982 to include Admiralty Jurisdiction, which was once again brought inland. This was the FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE necessary to effect unification of CIVIL and ADMIRALTY PROCEDURE. Just as 1938 Rules ABOLISHED THE DISTINCTION between Actions At Law and Suits in Equity, this CHANGE WOULD ABOLISH THE DISTINCTION between CIVIL ACTIONS and SUITS IN ADMIRALTY." (See: Federal Rules of Procedure, 1982 Ed., pg. 17. Also see Federalist Papers, No. 83, Declaration Of Resolves Of The First Continental Congress, Oct. 14th, 1774, Declaration Of Cause And Necessity Of Taking Up Arms, July 16, 1775, Declaration Of Independence, July 4, 1776, Bennet vs. Butterworth, 52 U.S. 669)
1983 - Uniform Marital Property Act and Uniform Premarital agreement Act approved. Uniform Transfers to Minors Act replaces the uniformly enacted Uniform Gifts to Minors Act.
1985 - Uniform Health-Care Information Act, Uniform Land Security Interest act, Uniform Personal Property Leasing Act and Uniform Rights of the Terminally Ill Act approved.
1989 - Article 4A of the UCC, dealing with electronic funds transfers, approved. Also approved: **amendments to the Rights of the Terminally Ill Act, authorizing withdrawal of life support by a surrogate decision maker; the Uniform Pretrial Detention Act, confining violent criminals before trial; the Uniform Non-probate Transfers on Death Act and amendments to Article VI of the Uniform Probate Code.
1990 - Major revision of 1970 Uniform Controlled Substances Act-- the law in 46 jurisdictions-- approved. Substantial revision of UCC Article 3 also approved, as well as an updated Article II of the Uniform Probate Code, to keep pace with current thinking on marital property.
This private corruption of the law has occurred despite the Constitutional responsibility conferred on Congress by Article I, Section 8 of the Federal Constitution which states that it is Congress that "makes all Laws." ....'
WHO IS RUNNING AMERICA http://www.barefootsworld.net/usfraud.html
And there's still more!
From the top:
'...Did you ever hear of the Independent Treasury Act of 1921? No, you say.... Hmmmmmmm....?
The Independent Treasury Act of 1921 suspended the de jure (meaning "by right of legal establishment") Treasury Department of the United States government. OUR CONGRESS TURNED THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT OVER TO A PRIVATE CORPORATION, THE FEDERAL RESERVE AND THEIR AGENTS. The bulk of the ownership of the Federal Reserve System, a very well kept secret from the American Citizen, is held by these banking interests:
Rothschild Bank of London
Rothschild Bank of Berlin
Warburg Bank of Hamburg
Warburg Bank of Amsterdam
Lazard Brothers of Paris
Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy
Chase Manhattan Bank of New York
Goldman, Sachs of New York
Lehman Brothers of New York
Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York
The Federal Reserve is at the root of most of our present laws. Basically, the Federal Reserve is the "STATE" of the United States....' http://www.barefootsworld.net/usfraud.html
Well, that just give me a place to launch off into the rest of my tirade!
First of all, as I said above, Americans were declared ENEMIES of the 'STATE' in 1933. Bankruptcy of U.S in 1933 & State of Emergency, War Powers & Trading with the Enemy Act of 1917
http://www.freedomdomain.com/bankrupt.html '
'...Trading with the Enemy Act of 1917 & 1933 (People Declared the Enemy)
Oct. 6, 1917, under the Trading with the Enemy Act, Section 2, subdivision (c), Chapter 106 -
Enemy defined "other than citizens of the United States..."
March 9, 1933, Chapter 106, Section 5, subdivision (b) of the Trading with the Enemy Act of
Oct.6 1917 (40 Stat. L. 411) amended as follows "...any person within the United States.."
See H.R. 1491 Public No.1 '
The NAZI's and the Russians both used Psychiatrists to wage war against enemies, political dissidents and 'useless eaters':
'...Observation of the abuses of psychiatry in the Soviet Union also led to questioning of the validity of the practice of psychiatry in the West. (In particular, the diagnosis of **political dissidents in the Russian Soviet Federated Socialist Republic (RSFSR) with sluggishly progressing schizophrenia, when compared to four different types of schizophrenia recognized in the West, led some to question the existence of schizophrenia.) ***The alleged practice of the UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE, endorsed by the agency, of attempting to get INVOLUNTARILY COMMITTED those it perceives (its critics would have it, perceives or claims it perceives) to be a danger to its protectees, rather than because of their mental illness, is claimed by some to come closest to these Soviet practices.....'
'...A wide concern is of over-diagnosis. Again, advocates argue that while serious mental illness does exist, currently people are diagnosed as mentally ill, and sometimes detained in mental hospitals, when they are (or their speech or behaviour is) merely different (or said to be different) from the prevailing attitudes of their society. [!!] There have been allegations that teenagers are particularly susceptible to improper involuntary commitment, and indeed in a few cases bounty hunters have even been used to take them to private psychiatric hospitals against their will. The treatment of patients in private psychiatric hospitals, chiefly teenagers, has been the subject of investigations by (U.S.) state attorneys general. [This scares the heck out of me, because I saw several months the potential for just this sort of abuse when reading the Florida statutes for juvenile 'delinquency'.]
'...A few individuals have criticized some state statutes in the United States that provide for involuntary commitment, for being unconstitutional as they violate the First, Fourth or Fifth Amendments. They argue that in those cases in which the writing or behaviour of the individual examined by a psychiatrist who will possibly be certified as being in need of treatment forms the basis for the diagnosis, the deprivation of liberty which will result if the individual is so found will actually be a result of his speech or writing, and testimony taken while in custody, in violation of the United States Constitution.....' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-psychiatry
'...The United States SECRET SERVICE is a United States federal government LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY ***originally created as part of the United States DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY. On March 1, 2003, it was moved under the jurisdiction of the United States Department of ***HOMELAND SECURITY.......****The Service has statutory authority to detain individuals deemed to be a danger to protectees, ***WITHOUT A COURT DETERMINATION THAT THE INDIVIDUALS IN QUESTION ARE MENTALLY ILL.. This has led to criticism....' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Secret_Service
[ ...let's see: The Secret Service can detain individuals it deems a 'threat' without a court order. Under the 'Patriot' Act, the feds are not required to reveal who is picked up as a possible 'terrorist' [and almost anyone can be considered a 'terrorist' under the 'Patriot' Act - see http://www.givemeliberty.org/FreedomDrive/Redress/PetitionUSAPat.htm ]; and according to one of their own [do search], THE PATRIOT ACT WAS NEVER JUST ABOUT TERRORISM. Under the 'privacy act', the hospitals, and HO$PICE$, are not required to reveal who is a patient. Are you following me? As a citizen in supposed post-Bill-of-Rights America(and I say 'supposed', because the PREAMBLE to the Bill of Rights debunks all of this lawyerly B.S.), do I have a right to be concerned?] REVIEW:
The 2003 Florida Statutes
Title XLIII
DOMESTIC RELATIONS Chapter 744
GUARDIANSHIP
744.3215 Rights of persons determined incapacitated.--
....****(2) Rights that may be removed from a person by an order determining incapacity include the right:
(a) To marry.
(b) To vote.
(c) To personally apply for government benefits.
(d) To have a driver's license.
(e) To travel.
(f) To seek or retain employment.
(3) Rights that may be removed from a person by an order determining incapacity and which may be delegated to the guardian include the right:
(a) To contract.
(b) To sue and defend lawsuits.
(c) To apply for government benefits.
(d) To manage property or to make any gift or disposition of property.
(e) To determine his or her residence.
(f) To consent to medical and mental health treatment.
(g) To make decisions about his or her social environment or other social aspects of his or her life.
(4) Without first obtaining specific authority from the [ KANGAROO/NOAHIDE/JUSTICE2020/JUDGE GREER,ETC. ] court, as described in s. 744.3725, a guardian may not:
(a) Commit the ward to a facility, institution, or licensed service provider without formal placement proceeding, pursuant to chapter 393, chapter 394, or chapter 397.
(b) Consent on behalf of the ward to the performance on the ward of any experimental biomedical or behavioral procedure or to the participation by the ward in any biomedical or behavioral experiment. [Ever see 'One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest'? 'From Hell'? Ever hear of Ezra Pound and how he spent 13 years as a political prisoner at St. Elizabeth's Mental Hospital in D.C. for exposing the Federal Reserve? Ever hear of the forced drugging of Dr. Sell for refusing to back down on his statements that he saw the federal government set the fires at Waco? Ever hear of the CIA victim of Sidney Gottlieb and MKULTRA who 'jumped' from about 70 floors up when he wanted out of the CIA after they secretly experimented on him and others with LSD? I regret that his name escapes me at the moment. This section of the Florida Statutes is what woke me up to the seriousness of all of this many months ago. Think about it. In the hands of people with no regard for human life, such as we are seeing in Florida, it's a prescription for a reign of terror.] The [kangaroo, etc.] court may permit such performance or participation only if:
1. It is of direct benefit to, and is intended to preserve the life of or prevent serious impairment to the mental or physical health of the ward; or
2. It is intended to assist the ward to develop or regain his or her abilities.
(c) Initiate a petition for dissolution of marriage for the ward.
(d) Consent on behalf of the ward to termination of the ward's parental rights.
(e) Consent on behalf of the ward to the performance of a sterilization or abortion procedure on the ward. ]
http://www.flsenate.gov/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0744/SEC3215.HTM&Title=-%3E2003-%3ECh0744-%3ESection%203215
I posted an awful lot to read. However, here are some more excerpts from some more articles that might make some people out there who are sitting on the fence wake up and get involved:
'...'...The extermination camps, the apex of development on the sterilisation, castration, and euthanasia chain of evolution could be considered to be the full flowering of the plans laid by the psychiatrists and on the basis of experience gained in the euthanasia programme were the perfection of murder on assembly line basis.
In 1940...'
'...Werner explained to him that both Russia and America had for some time had a law which allowed them to carry out mercy killings (this of course was not true) [or was it??] on people who were insane or badly deformed. He explained that a law was going to be passed in Germany in the near future but it was going to be done only after a great deal of psychological preparation. However, in the meantime the task had begun under absolute secrecy.
He then went on to explain that the patients selected for the action were carefully examined and a series of tests were carried out by at least two [complicit, my words] physicians and only those absolutely incurable were put to a totally painless [like dehydration?] death.....' [folks like Terri, and Hugh Finn, etc.]
'...the eminent psychiatrist Professor Dr. Werner Heyde super expert in T4. In the preceding years he had adopted an alias, being known as Dr. Sawade and had practised openly in Germany. He had done a variety of work for a state insurance agency, and law courts. ****Many people including Judges, Prosecutors, physicians, university professors and high state officials knew his identity. ****And they preserved the conspiracy of silence.....'
'....for those who survived the war, did not commit suicide, and were still at large, there was at least one place where they could appear with impunity in an understanding community who welcomed their talents and shared their viewpoint.' THE MEN BEHIND HITLER - CHAPTER VII THE PSYCHIATRIC FINAL SOLUTION TO THE JEWISH QUESTION http://www.toolan.com/hitler/finalsol.html
'...During the war the name of Eugenics became even more heavily associated with the Nazis and consequently afterwards a whitewashing procedure began, the first step of which was the reconstitution of the various National Councils of Mental Hygiene. The first to be re-founded was the British National Association for Mental Health....'
'...The influence of a huge professional body could not be halted by the mere death of over a quarter of a million mental patients and others, and at least a million Jews in the T4 extermination camps, it could only be slowed; ****but the ranks are reforming for the next social onslaught which this time may not be disguised by war but by charity. Lord Adrian, member of the Eugenics Society, the British NAMH and the Voluntary Euthanasia Society, expressed this kind of charity in a speech he gave in 1956:
"...preventive health services are bound to interfere with individual liberty... and if they aim at mental as well as physical health they must be prepared to separate mothers from children and to supervise the lives of people who would like to be let alone." MEN BEHIND HITLER - CHAPTER VIII THE PHOENIX http://www.toolan.com/hitler/phoenix.html
'...Euthanasia has surfaced again as a charitable organisation dispensing *** "Death with Dignity", *** a new euphemism, with the aim of giving a person who is in a state of health which precludes any chance of being cured the opportunity [the opportunity??? gentle as a dove, gentle as a dove...] of letting himself be killed, but of course only when he is complete agreement with the measure. [oh yes, of course, like the forced killings in the Netherlands. Like the forced killing of Hugh Finn, and others, and now Terri. gentle as a dove....gentle as a dove...] **In the case of mental unbalance, **a relative [or WORLD'S WORST HUSBAND] can give consent. Once again the first signs of forced euthanasia are becoming visible, aimed at the mentally ill....' THE MEN BEHIND HITLER CHAPTER IX
THE SAME OLD TUNE http://216.239.37.99/search?q=cache:cITA9aM2wlIJ:www.toolan.com/hitler/sameold.html+planned+parenthood+toolan.com&hl=en
So where do we start? I'm not sure, but I think we first need to realize that when we speak of apples it may mean oranges to these peoples. We've got to figure out a way to beat them at their own game. I keep thinking of what God says and trying to apply it.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Psa/69/22.html
http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/1Cr/3/19.html
Somehow, I feel He intends for us to win this battle. I pray He will give us the wisdom how. And I also pray that more people will see this battle as one we ALL have to fight.
'When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.' - Thomas Jefferson
Put your faith in God Theodore. I think that is what it is coming down to.
FRegards.
Thanks for that all your time putting together that info, Ethan. I skimmed the first part, have a bad feeling about it which I guess is what you're talking about, and am now printing it out for closer reading and (if I can) study.
uh oh... : o P
Thanks again for your work on this, Ethan. And for all who are doing so much for Terri -- and may our prayers be answered.
As Larry King said, "Why don't you just walk away, Michael? Just walk away." Michael should just get over it; he's gone on with his life, now he should let Terri get on with hers and let her be.
Tampa paper apologizes for big mistake
"It is so important to us to get it right. And today we failed you. We extend our heartfelt apologies."
Wish they felt the same way about articles for Terri!
prayers for Terri
Saved for future reference.
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SUPPORT JAN GOVAN'S RUN FOR JUDGE TO RESTORE THE PUBLIC TRUST IN PINELLAS-PASCO COUNTY, FLORIDA.
George Greer stinks, stank, stunk.
DEFEAT GREER. Visit Jan Govan's web site. www.jangovan.com/
Jan decides to give voters a choice by running for Circuit Court Judge. The first time in 12 years that voters have been given an alternative.
from Jan Govan's web site.
How entangled we've become in the web of sin and deceit, O Lord ... tear away everything that hinders Terri from the love and care of her family. Place Godly fear into the hearts of all those who join with the merchants of death, for You are not deceived ... You are not mocked ... for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Speak to Michael's heart, lest his children learn that their father seeks the life of his wife. They are as innocent as Terri ... shield them, Merciful Father, deliver them, O Lord ... we ask in faith, believing, in the Name of Jesus, Amen ...
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VERY IMPORTANT THREAD TO DEFEAT JUDGE GREER. Please herd freepers over there for me if you have a minute, cyn. Thanks, floriduh voter
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